My hard drive wont boot

My hard drive wont boot

Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by SWATSiLeNt on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 6:18am
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Ok first off let me start by telling you how the problem occurs. When i start up the pc it will load then ask me to boot up from safemode and start normal and so on. When it gets passed that it will display windows screen saying loading and it has the black background, then after that stops the hard drive will shut down leavin ghte rest of the pc on and then the process starts over again. Iv tried restoring the drive, iv tried loading from the windows operation cd and that never passed threw either. If anyone can help me with this problem i would greatly appreciate it. Maybe there is a DOS command or somthing someone please help i couldn't get anything outa the harddrive troubleshooting forums most of them wont respond for at least a month and microsoft.com did no help. I find this the most active forum around here so.....

if you can help now aim me SWATSILENT

thx
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by $loth on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 8:07am
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You could try a re-format and re-isntall of windows, sound like is a bit corrupted :sad:
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by Forceflow on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 8:10am
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Hmm ... use a bootdisk from www.bootdisks.com and boot from it. Then
you can use scandisk to scan your HD for errors/bad sectors.
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by G.Ballblue on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 3:35pm
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I kinda had the same problem on my second drive.... Amazingly, what I found out what the cause was was that 2% of the hardrive had corrupted -- and that 2% contained the stuff that made Windows boot up. Sounds like the same thing on yours.... sort of. Keep trying with it --- it might turn on --- but after like, 30 tires :sad: Sorry.

Solution - Get a new hard drive. Format your new drive with Windows, then slave the corrupted drive. You can then access the corrupted drive and copy stuff off of it. :|
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by Crono on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 10:26pm
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Don't listen to G.B. (No offense, man.)

The worst case scenario would be doing what sloth said.

ScanDisk would be a very good idea. There are also boot sector recovory programs and such. Keep a lookout for them.

The only way you'd have to buy a new drive is if the drive is physically dammaged. Like if the controller card burnt a chip or something (which would suck donkey balls).
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by Forceflow on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 10:53pm
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I had a similar problem today.

My computer booted, but after I did a system clean (with teh windows tool, it just gave a blue screen, some kind of stop error)

So I did CHKDSK /f /r in the command prompt, and then you can choose
when this scan has to happen, because it can't be ran from inside
WinXP. So I choose "at next reboot". Well, it looks like it fixed the
problem. I rebooted the computer 3 times and did a sysclean ... no
blue-ish errors. :smile:
If the /R switch is in effect, CHKDSK runs a
fourth pass to look for bad sectors in the volume's free space. CHKDSK
attempts to read every sector on the volume to confirm that the sector
is usable. Even without the /R switch, CHKDSK always
reads sectors that are associated with metadata. Sectors that are
associated with user data are read during earlier phases of CHKDSK if
the /R switch is specified.

When CHKDSK finds an unreadable sector, NTFS adds the cluster that
contains that sector to its list of bad clusters. If the bad cluster is
in use, CHKDSK allocates a new cluster to do the job of the bad
cluster. If you are using a fault-tolerant disk, NTFS recovers the bad
cluster's data and writes the data to the newly allocated cluster.
Otherwise, the new cluster is filled with a pattern of 0xFF bytes.

If NTFS encounters unreadable sectors during the course of normal
operation, NTFS remaps the sectors in the same way that it does when
CHKDSK runs. Therefore, using the /R switch is usually not essential.
However, using the /R switch is a convenient way to scan the entire volume if you suspect that a disk might have bad sectors.
the /f parameter is: check for faults

the /r paramater is: check for bad sectors

Looks like I had a bad sector.

I'll stop shouting it out, because it'll start going crazy again, maybe.
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by Forceflow on Thu Aug 5th 2004 at 11:36pm
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noooooooooo

it's back !
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by $loth on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 7:13am
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Crono said:
The worst case scenario would be doing what sloth said.
When my pc fails, its always the worst case scenario :biggrin:
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by Crono on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 7:21am
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you may be jumping to conclusions and needlessly wiping your drives ... that's all. *cough*most likely happening constantly*cough* :smile:
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by $loth on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 8:24am
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Hehe, I only wipe my hard drive when I need to, if I can't find out the answer at first, then I usually ask my friend jon, who 99.999999% of the time will solve it.
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Aug 6th 2004 at 5:31pm
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It's really useful having two hard disks with an OS on both. Any problem on one drive can be fixed by loading up the other copy of windows. It doesn't need to be a fast or new drive, an old 2.3 gig thing will fit windows 2000 on it and will do for fixing your proper drive it it starts screwing around.
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by SWATSiLeNt on Fri Aug 13th 2004 at 3:39am
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well :chainsaw: :computer: I have talked with some friends and had my old mans friend work with me to come to a conclusion. Simply the dam thing is a hardware failure it wont get wiped clean it has a delay in between boot once it starts a loaded amount of data and it seems to want to boot up then it overflows because the hard drive is not working correctly and then stops the hard disk inside it and it reboots again from teh start in a continuing process soooooo... i ordered a new one and ill try to get it to leek out as much stuff as i can onto my new one as soon as it gets here..... if you were wondering they sent it to me for free W00tness for the warrentys i love em

:ar15firing: :munky: :sniper:
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by $loth on Fri Aug 13th 2004 at 6:09am
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scary_jeff said:
It's really useful having two hard disks with an OS on both. Any problem on one drive can be fixed by loading up the other copy of windows. It doesn't need to be a fast or new drive, an old 2.3 gig thing will fit windows 2000 on it and will do for fixing your proper drive it it starts screwing around.
You could have linux as a back up os, but then again SWATSiLeNt you could download a copy of linux live, then if you have another hard drive then you could copy over alll of your files :biggrin:
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Aug 13th 2004 at 11:46pm
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Any backup OS will do if it is on a different drive.
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by $loth on Sat Aug 14th 2004 at 7:16am
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scary_jeff said:
Any backup OS will do if it is on a different drive.
true, but isn't there something like , if you are using windows then it can't read whats on a partiton made with linux? I read that in some magazine.
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by fizscy46 on Sat Aug 14th 2004 at 7:17am
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Windows won't compat with anything but windows. Same with macs.

Linux on the other hand can read any OS's files. If it wasn't for stupid people making software for windows, we'd all use linux
Re: My hard drive wont boot Posted by $loth on Sat Aug 14th 2004 at 7:18am
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fizscy46 said:
Windows won't compat with anything but windows. Same with macs.

Linux on the other hand can read any OS's files. If it wasn't for stupid people making software for windows, we'd all use linux
Or freebsd.