I'm stupid, help me please

I'm stupid, help me please

Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:06pm
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I bought an Nvidia 5200FX card today for my comp and installed it. I go to play WoW on low settings and I'm still getting lag. I'm running on cable internet so whats wrong and how can I get my game to run smooth?
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by G.Ballblue on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:09pm
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Hmm. Are you getting any visual problems? (weird s**t I mean). The lag may simply be due to bad servers/ bad net code...? And what's WoW anyway ? (Sorry to sound clueless).
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:10pm
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No weird errors. WoW= World of Warcraft.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by G.Ballblue on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:13pm
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<DIV class=quotetext>No weird errors. WoW= World of Warcraft. </DIV></DIV>
Oh. Since it's internet, are you leaving your fire wall on? If so, then consider turning it off -- In a couple of games, I lag misserbly with it on.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Orpheus on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:15pm
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nvidia cards are fickle critters, you absolutely must uninstall any other drivers.. plus its always a plus to run one of those driver seeker programs to remove any residual crap left over.

if you have issues, its not the card (unless its defective) or your machine.. its most likely something YOU failed to do.

go to the nvidia site, follow the links to those seeker programs i mentioned.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Myrk- on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:30pm
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Well its a new game, prolly crap net code or just plain crap connection. Might be better of with even faster net :razz:
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Leperous on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:45pm
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Do you mean lag as in internet lag, or low frame rates and "visual lag"?
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 5:46pm
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Well I noticed that some areas are a bit more laggier than others so its kinda hard to tell.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Myrk- on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 6:00pm
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Find out an FPS command then come back :razz:
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by OtZman on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 7:31pm
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You could always use fraps to determine the FPS rate.

http://www.fraps.com/
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Jezpuh on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 8:36pm
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Fraps is used for recording and it drops your FPS while running it, fool.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Junkyard God on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 8:40pm
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my m8 had this problem but that was becouse his other hardware didn't realy work with that gfx card well, it might be that your other hardware is screwing it up, try de-installing all gfx drivers and installing the newest drivers for your card, i suggest www.nvidia.com .

if that doesn't work i think you might want to get a other ge force card. my m8 got another one , slightly newer model for the same price and that did work.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 8:47pm
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My PC specs are 1ghz PIII, 256mb ram, and Geforce 5200FX. Those specs should run the game fine.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Gorbachev on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 9:00pm
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No, those specs wouldn't run the game at a desireable framerate if you want any detail whatsoever...
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 10:35pm
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<DIV class=quotetext>No, those specs wouldn't run the game at a desireable framerate if you want any detail whatsoever...
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You think I'll get any improvent upgrading to 512mb ram? I really want to get as much joy outa this game as possibe. This is one of the few games I have bought in the last few years and I think its awesome. I'll be playing long from now.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Orpheus on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 10:40pm
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personally, i think your bottleneck is the "PIII" part.. WoW is awfully new, and power hungry.

increasing to 512 wont help much cause its most likely either P100 or P133 ram, both are slow as hell.

the card is prolly drawing as much power from your processor as the game is, cause its so new.. i bet it even has to slow down cause the AGP slot is so old.

/methinks, you are fighting a lost cause my friend. :sad:
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by pepper on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 10:51pm
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Fraps is used for recording and it drops your FPS while running it, fool.
it only drops frames when recording, when not recording it doesnt drop the frames.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Nickelplate on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 10:53pm
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for any new games you really need the following: at least 2Ghz, 1GB of RAM and a newer bus speed like anything that includes DDR, and your vid card is good!
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 11:20pm
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Some of the lag is cause by latency on the servers parts. That's the part that kills me the most. Also when I get into areas where there is a large amound of people and enemies. Other than that the game runs fine. You think Blizzard will improve the servers over time so that there is better latency? Also would upgrading to 512mb ram make any major or noticable improvement in the game?
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Crono on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 11:50pm
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personally, i think your bottleneck is the "PIII" part.. WoW is awfully new, and power hungry.

increasing to 512 wont help much cause its most likely either P100 or P133 ram, both are slow as hell.

the card is prolly drawing as much power from your processor as the
game is, cause its so new.. i bet it even has to slow down cause the
AGP slot is so old.

/methinks, you are fighting a lost cause my friend. :sad:
Ram will help more then you're implying. Anything to prevent HDD access will help beyond words.

Although I doubt WoW will run smoothly. The processor ISN'T the bottleneck.

Most likely the bandwidth of the bus, ram, and graphics card slot are what is holding it back.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 11:54pm
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Some images in this post have been automatically down-sized, click on them to view the full sized versions:

Here's some pics I took of the game for you all to drool over. I'm playing as a Druid and my race is the night elves.

User posted image

User posted image
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Crono on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 11:56pm
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I bet WoW is cool and all, but those
screenshots do NOT entice me.
I've seen other MMORPGs that look
better. But WoW probably has better gameplay.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Sun Dec 26th 2004 at 11:56pm
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So whats the cheapest and easiest way to really improve my gameplay on WoW? Obviously you've all given me great choices but I dont' have a lot of money to spend.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Crono on Mon Dec 27th 2004 at 12:00am
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So whats the cheapest and easiest way to really improve my
gameplay on WoW? Obviously you've all given me great choices but I
dont' have a lot of money to spend.
Put your settings on the absolute
lowest choices.
Turn off ALL other programs. And I do mean ALL.
Every program you can close without compromising the system you
should turn off.

DO NOT Over clock your video card. The rest
of your hardware is holding it's performance back. Over clocking will
not do anything. (I don't know if anyone mentioned it, I'm just
mentioning it so it doesn't cross your mind)

Other then that
you'd probably have to get new hardware :sad:

I don't suggest
Defragging. Most files that are saved on your HDD are contiguous, so
defragging wont do much of anything (except eat up time and
resources.)
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Mon Dec 27th 2004 at 12:20am
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<DIV class=quote>
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<DIV class=quotetext>So whats the cheapest and easiest way to really improve my gameplay on WoW? Obviously you've all given me great choices but I dont' have a lot of money to spend. </DIV></DIV>

Put your settings on the absolute lowest choices.
Turn off ALL other programs. And I do mean ALL. Every program you can close without compromising the system you should turn off.

DO NOT Over clock your video card. The rest of your hardware is holding it's performance back. Over clocking will not do anything. (I don't know if anyone mentioned it, I'm just mentioning it so it doesn't cross your mind)

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I already do that. I think there might be a problem with my internet because after playing for an hour my latency goes through the roof for no reason. It happens everytime.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Mon Dec 27th 2004 at 1:49am
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Well I fixed one of my problems. I only had 1.8mb available physical memory. I cleared up my desktop and deleted a lot of stuff off my recycle bin and now I have 88.8mb of available physical memory.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Foxpup on Mon Dec 27th 2004 at 4:26am
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1 GHz P3??? Isn't that one of the most unstable CPUs ever made?
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Spartan on Mon Dec 27th 2004 at 5:33am
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<DIV class=quotetext>1 GHz P3??? Isn't that one of the most unstable CPUs ever made? </DIV></DIV>
After a while the crying stops and you get use to it.
Re: I'm stupid, help me please Posted by Foxpup on Wed Dec 29th 2004 at 1:29am
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Just get a P4!