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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4208363.stm

In a few months, Microsoft has decided that users of pirated versions of WinXP will still be able to download critical security updates, but most other patches won't be available.

It's cunning, but slightly misses the point: if Windows XP itself can be pirated, how hard will it be to h4x0r the patches to work on pirated computers too?

Jeeze, China has 92% piracy rate! LOL

Big deal, I know a whole bunch of people that use a taboo version of
WINXP and don't give a damn about Microsoft's pathetic security
updates (and SPack2 blocks DC++, yet allows 55%
of the worms and trojans out there to infest your PC, that is why
I refuse to update.).

That would be me. I have taboo versions for XP pro, and XP pro corp. And no, I dont give a damn about the security updates.

Cheers! Finally those updates won't infect my pc!

They've basically said, "If you pirate it, you wont be bombarded with updates". I think the piracy rate will increase.

That would be me. I have taboo versions for XP pro, and XP pro
corp. And no, I dont give a damn about the security updates.

I got one like that, but I'm currently using OEM home because I can't
get any updates at all with the copied version, which I originally got
for my 3 year old computer before it blew up.

I'm all for this, because in the last couple of years, since wanting to
get in to the games industry and watching movies alot at the cinema
because piracy is a problem, and such a big one we could end up losing
out on technological advances in the future and potentially cripple
media industries.

I also never update my computer, especially after the SP2 fiasco I heard about.

Thursday, please. Do you have any idea how much money they're making? I assure you, with all of the "piracy problems" they haven't lost much.

I've had this discussion in my Ethics course a billion times and it really pisses me off. Why is it SO crazy and unethical for one person to pirate something yet, it is completely fine for the company providing it to charge an insane amount of money, one of which covers 200% profit? The only argument that I've heard that holds ANY water is that: They're providing a service. However, those companies try to entice you, which are another ethical conversation on it's own. I believe the conversation weened over to Windows. And people argued that it is a service and you don't have to buy it. But, Microsoft goes out of their way to contract software companies to develop for them. So, you would be forced to use their product. I'm just getting sick of this double standard. Why would an individual be held to an ethical code when a group of them aren't?

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Good thing I'm getting suse 9.2 in a couple of days.

They've basically said, "If you pirate it, you wont be bombarded with updates". I think the piracy rate will increase.

Thats what I think about STEAM. It's sooooo annoying that it actually encourages people to buy pirate CDs that have NOSteam cracks.

Thursday, please. Do you have any idea how much money they're
making? I assure you, with all of the "piracy problems" they haven't
lost much.

I've had this discussion in my Ethics course a
billion times and it really pisses me off. Why is it SO crazy and
unethical for one person to pirate something yet, it is completely fine
for the company providing it to charge an insane amount of money, one
of which covers 200% profit? The only argument that I've heard that
holds ANY water is that: They're providing a service. However, those
companies try to entice you, which are another ethical conversation on
it's own. I believe the conversation weened over to Windows. And people
argued that it is a service and you don't have to buy it. But,
Microsoft goes out of their way to contract software companies to
develop for them. So, you would be forced to use their product. I'm
just getting sick of this double standard. Why would an individual be
held to an ethical code when a group of them aren't?

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It started off as an individual, but now, it seems its more than a
small group of individuals that have pirated copies of movies, games,
software. I mean out of the group of people at my college, 95% of us
have bought pirated goods. In years to come, the industries will
decline alot more than they have started to. It's not individuals or
people 'borrowing' an original copy and burning I'm worried about, it's
the overall coverage of the question, "What if everyone decides they
want to pirate?". In almost all cases, if you could get something the
same or near same quality at a much smaller price, you would go for it.
So piracy is starting to begin a 'revolution', using the term loosely
that is. Hooray for things like Steam I say :smile:

Depends on where you are, I know that most people in my media class
have never downloaded a movie them selves, 3 of them have got a copy
from a friend and 12 of them have downloaded music [all of that media
being illegal] but none of them do it regularly or have downloaded
albums. I don't think that will affect the music Industry one bit,
neither would it be if every school in the country had "statistics"
like that.

p.s. None of those statistics include me.

Awesome idea, microsoft gets a bad name for stuff they should not be accused of - providing for little pirates is one of the things they should not have to deal with. Good for them. Although, I will still use Linux.

It is the RIAA that I cannot abide by.

Big deal, I know a whole bunch of people that use a taboo version of
WINXP and don't give a damn about Microsoft's pathetic security
updates (and SPack2 blocks DC++, yet allows 55%
of the worms and trojans out there to infest your PC, that is why
I refuse to update.).

Are you talking DevC++? I have it on my machine with SP2 and no problems.

Awesome idea, microsoft gets a bad name for stuff they should
not be accused of - providing for little pirates is one of the things
they should not have to deal with. Good for them. Although, I will
still use Linux.

It is the RIAA that I cannot abide by.

I'd agree there. MS gets blamed for a lot of stuff that shouldn't be
warranted. The RIAA on the other hand...they're living in the stone age
and they're swinging their clubs. I'm making a note to never buy
associated CDs of theirs anymore.

I think hes talking about DC++ the peer to peer file sharing program.

I have a legit copy of XPpro and I sure as hell wouldn't dl any updates
from microsoft. And you better believe my next computer will only
touch win32 by wine.

I find SP2 ok, makes networking easier so I don't complain.

The majority of stuff that was "broken" was just the fact that the
firewall had defaults that were technically security holes. I'm not
saying it fixed them, but it just shows what's actually open all the
time on a system. Use a P2P and set the ports on your own, there are
plenty that work just fine on SP2 with no issues.

I think hes talking about DC++ the peer to peer file sharing program.

I have a legit copy of XPpro and I sure as hell wouldn't dl any updates
from microsoft. And you better believe my next computer will only
touch win32 by wine.

I think it's suse 9.2 which comes with wine :smile: I'm getting it tomoz hopefully :smile:

? quote:? quote:I think hes talking about DC++ the peer to peer file sharing program.

I have a legit copy of XPpro and I sure as hell wouldn't dl any updates
from microsoft. And you better believe my next computer will only
touch win32 by wine.

I think it's suse 9.2 which comes with wine :smile: I'm getting it tomoz hopefully :smile:

Wine is free. Wine-X isn't. And yes, SuSE comes with a billion and one packages. It'll literally take up about 15Gb is you installed EVERYTHING, which I don't recommend, but, Wine is included, you have to configure it though.

Oh, and the carification was simply because Wine-X is made to simulate DirectX ... meaning games (potentially).

Erm...i was talking about DC++ the peer-to-peer filesharing program.
C++, the borland compiler, zeus for windows etc run without any
problems (although the compiler tends to crash ever since i've got XP).
Anyway, SP2 seems to block all peer-to-peer programs; i'd rather make
it out with the worms and trojans, rather than give up on filesharing!

It doesn't block all P2P programs, I've gone through about 10 different
ones recently with no problems. I have SP2, they work fine!

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting xconspirisist</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Awesome idea, microsoft gets a bad name for stuff they should not be accused of - providing for little pirates is one of the things they should not have to deal with. Good for them. Although, I will still use Linux.

It is the RIAA that I cannot abide by.

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f**k RIAA...
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