best elevator for css hostages

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i need an elevator (the method of making it, not the actual brushes :razz: ), that can transport hosties. I'm fine with it being an 'expensive' one, if itll do the trick. I'd even be fine with it being solely from one floor to another, though multiple floors would be best.

I believe there is a tutorial on this on the Pit. I'm too lazy to find it though.

http://www.snarkpit.net/editing.php?page=tutorials&game=HL2&id=151

found it. But, this looks like HLDM. And remember... this needs to transport hosties. I know that there are cheaps ways of doing things, and expensive ones. I just need to know what would be best for hosties, also, how the paths for hosties comes into play here.

Having read up a bit on hosties and navs, sounds like one option would be to run the nav_generator such that the two elevator stop doors (not of the elevator itself) are open, place the opened elevator at one stop (so it gets a nav point), then use those crazy commands to insert another nav point at the other stop, and then connect the two.

Any ideas?

guys?

i know hosties are wack, they can barely handle simple stairs without tinkering. I need to know about this elevator situation! :razz:

Mess around. Make some elevators and see what works best.

but do nav_generate's make use of elevators?!

Only way to find out, is to try it...

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I havnt exactly used navs before, so i didnt want to get knee deep into the sh*t then realize it was completely pointless

i'd reckon that most people here, including myself, could only make a guess at what a nav_generator is. if i was you, i'd find a forum that deals with this nav thingy and how it works best, and then try to incorporate that into the map.

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hostages, in cs:s?! if you just plop down the entities they dont do anything. You have to run i think it's nav_generate once you're in the map, and it creates a series of waypoints that they follow. With stuff like stairs, which screw them up, you have to edit the navs manually and raise em and such. I havnt done any of this, ive just been reading up on it, in tutorials. But nothing has mentioned elevators.

Here's a crazy idea. Instead of waiting days for somebody to tell
you exactly what to do, get in the editor and try something.
It'll work alot faster. If there aren't any tutorials, somebody
else is going to have to get in the editor and fool around to find
out. That person might as well be you.

sounds like thats what itll come to

but i still have about a months worth of mapping to do, so i guess itll have to be a little educational hit n miss for another couple days at the end. I was merely hoping someone would say 'yes, an expensive 'prop_physics' rather than a func_elevator is the best, where you manually put a nav at each floor' or something. As that could save me days.

The hostages aren't going to be going in on their own, so make it
activated by a button. Thus, when the hostages are all inside the
elevator, the guy presses the button and they're off! Nobody's
going to lay it out for you though.

huh?

you're not making sense. The hostages go by waypoints. You cant make the nav waypoints triggerable.

So I can only assume you mean trigger the elevator. But that was kindof obvious, since a) an automatic elevator is unrealistic and lame, and b) the hosties wouldnt have time to get on.

Pls stop replying if you dont know what you're talking about.

I give up. I don't want this to be a flame war, but you're kind
of steering it in that direction. First off, get off your ass and
make a damn elevator. Secondly, how many types of elevators are
there? If you don't want anybodies help, so be it, but don't tell
me to stop replying.

Of course I meant trigger the elevator.

If you're looking for things to try, I have a theory on a really ugly hack that might be worth a shot.

Let's say you have an elevator that goes to two floors. Make a dummy third floor where the elevator starts off. In the elevator shaft below, create a simple staircase with func_wall brushes (simple enough for a hostage to navigate, or can be made to navigate with tweaking). When the players spawn, have them trip an entity that destroys the staircase brushes and brings the elevator down. By then the navigation mesh will be set up for a staircase, so maybe the hostages will be able to handle the elevator area.

Just an idea.

do these hostages spawn in the elevator? do way points have to be connected? If not, just dont connect the two waypoints in the elevator shaft. The ones for each stop point for the elevator. If a ct is leading them into the elevator they would leave behind that last navpoint and when the elevator reached the next floor they ct would lead them to the next nav point and follow from there.

yeah, im afraid that i might have to do something akin to the staircase idea at some point

although the elevator only goes two stops though, those two stops are like 5 big floors apart :sad: