PixelView, Any Good?

I'm looking at purchasing a Geforce 6800GT AGP 256 for a pretty darned
cheap price. The makers of the card are PixelView, which sound a bit
dodge. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with pixelview,
heard anything good or bad about them, or have any links to sites that
have reliable info about them.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

For what it's worth, PixelView is a "Certified nVidia Vendor" according to this site:

http://www.prolink.com.tw/

Depending on the price, perhaps you should wait if you have doubts.

I've seen the GT AGP down to about $420 online (for a well known brand and such, but less popular brands are always cheaper)

What price are you getting? If it's below or close to $150, I'd say jump on it. If there's a warrenty, there's not a damned thing to lose.
Otherwise, wait until all the cards go down (which will be soon, I hope. Cards that were $520 a couple weeks ago have gone down about $50 :smile: )

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Reviews TBH, look some up.

Well the card is $460 australian including postage, which is about $200
cheaper than anywhere else I've seen it. It comes with a 12 month
warranty from the Hong Kong based company which is selling it, which
have also registered their business in Australia, with Australian
banks. All up it seems pretty good. I've searched around and there are
no reviews of their 6800 series cards, but plenty from previous series,
all of which did pretty well and seem to have gotten a number of awards
and endorsments.

I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything majorly wrong with
PixelView or their 6800 series cards. If not I'll be buying in the next
24 hours.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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no clue about Pixelview. however, I have the eVGA version of that same card, and it is SEXY bwaha

After some more extensive searching I found what I needed to know, they
seem to be an alright manufacturer and, despite the fact there are no
bundled games, the card is looking really good. I'll be purchasing
tommorow :smile: .

YAAYYY, I'll be able to play BF2 now :biggrin: .

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

$360 (US) is too much for a video card, in my opinion. Also, it's an AGP card. This will force you to spend more on your next upgrade.

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For what its worth, the PowerColor is a credited seller of ATI cards.. They use cheaper parts so.... Just because its a credited supplier, doesn't mean squat.

I love my 9800 Pro 256 card, but.. its between a regular 9800 and a Pro to be honest.. not a full scale Pro card in other words..

Its fast as hell though, so I am not complaining.

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Well for top of a high end card I'm willing to pay that much, because I
figure it will last longer. My Ti4200 has lasted more than a year and a
half, with the old pixel shader version the only thing letting it down.
That was a high-mid range card then.

Also I only updated my motherboard last year, so before I run off and
purchase a new PCI-e SLi capable motherboard, I'm going to get more of
a run from the old AGP cards. Realistically you'd only want it if you
have enough money to purchase two cards, then you would get the value.
I only have enough to afford the one, and thats with a bit of cash
thrown in from my parents, so I'm hardly going to buy a new motherboard
as well.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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I read that the 6800 will only run on a windows 2000/XP machine.. be sure you meet the specs bud.. A large card, will work an older PC to death.. No insult intended of course.

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Windows XP; Intel P4 2.8Ghz HT; 1GB Corsair DDR; Abit AI-7 mobo.

I think it can handle it :smile: .

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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Agent Smith</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Windows XP; Intel P4 2.8Ghz HT; 1GB Corsair DDR; Abit AI-7 mobo.

I think it can handle it :smile: .
</DIV></DIV>

Nearly as big as mine :razz: [edit] Asus A8V Deluxe, 3500+ 939 pin, 512/PC3200

but yeah, should be able to cope.. In fact, I bet you'll be tempted to put this card into the next machine you build its so good. :wink:

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lol, thats what I'm hoping :biggrin: .

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Abit AI7
Processor - Intel Pentium 4 (Northwood/Prescott) with the 400/533/800 MHz bus;

• Intel Celeron (Northwood) with the 400 MHz bus;
• Socket 478;
• Support for HyperThreading processors

Chipset - North bridge Intel? 865PE Memory Controller Hub (MCH);

• South bridge Intel? Intel 82801ER Enhanced I/O Controller Hub (ICH5);
• Link between bridges: Hub Link v1.5

System memory - Four 184-pin slots for DDR SDRAM DIMM;

• Maximum memory capacity 4GB;
• Supported memory types - PC2100/PC2700/PC3200;
• Dual-channel memory access;
• Onboard power indicator

Graphics - AGP Pro slot supporting the 4x/8x modes
Expansion options - Five 32-bit PCI Bus Master slots;

• Eight USB 2.0 ports (4 integrated + 4 additional);
• Three IEEE1394 (Firewire) ports
• Integrated audio AC'92 v2.2;

Overclocking options - FSB adjustable within 100 MHz to 412 MHz in 1MHz increments;

• Processor/memory/AGP voltages adjustable;
• Abit SoftMenu;
• Abit OC Guru (support for mGuru)

Disk subsystem - 2 channels UltraDMA/100/66/33 Bus Master IDE (with support for up to 4 ATAPI devices)

• Support for SerialATA (2 channels - ICH5R, with support for RAID)
• Support for LS-120 / ZIP / ATAPI CD-ROM

BIOS - 2MBit Flash ROM

• Award Phoenix BIOS with support for Enhanced ACPI, DMI, Green, PnP Features and Trend Chip Away Virus
• Abit FlashMenu

Miscellaneous - One port for the FDD, one serial and one parallel ports, ports for the PS/2 mouse and keyboard

• STR (Suspend to RAM)
• SPDIF In\ Out
• Additional chip mGuru

Power management - Wake-up on modem, mouse, keyboard, LAN, timer and USB

• Standard 20-pin power connector ATX (ATX-PW)
• Additional 4-pin power connector

Monitoring - Tracking the temperatures of the processor, voltages, rotational speeds of the three fans

• Abit FanEQ (enhanced version - support for the mGuru)
• The monitoring utility Abit EQ (support for the mGuru)

Dimensions - ATX form factor, 245mm x 305mm (9.63" x 12")



ASUS A8V Deluxe

CPU
Socket 939 for AMD Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64
AMD64 architecture enables simultaneous 32- and 64-bit computing
Supports AMD Cool 'n' Quiet Technology

Chipset
VIA K8T800Pro
VIA VT8237

System Bus
2000 MT/s

Memory
4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max. 4GB DDR400/DDR333/DDR266 non-ECC un-buffered DDR SDRAM memory
Dual Channel Memory Architecture

Expansion Slots
1 x AGP8X (1.5V only)
5 x PCI

Storage
South Bridge
2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
2 x Serial ATA, support RAID 0, RAID 1, and JBOD
Promise 20378 RAID controller
1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66/33
2 x Serial ATA
Support RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, and Multiple RAID

AI Audio
Realtek ALC850, 8-channel CODEC
Audio Sensing and Enumeration Technology
Three Universal Audio Jack (UAJ)
Coaxial/Optical S/PDIF out ports on back I/O

IEEE 1394
VIA 1394 Controller supports 2 x 1394 ports

USB 2.0
8 USB2.0 ports

AI BIOS
CrashFree BIOS 2
Q-Fan 2
Post Reporter

AI Overclocking
ASUS JumperFree
CPU, Memory, and AGP voltage adjustable
SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) from 200MHz up to 300MHz at 1MHz increment
ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)

BIOS Feature
4 Mb Flash ROM
AMI BIOS
PnP
DMI2.0
WfM2.0
SM BIOS 2.3 Special Features
ASUS Wi-Fi@Home
ASUS MyLogo2
ASUS Multi-language BIOS
ASUS Instant Music
ASUS EZ Flash

Back Panel I/O Ports
1 x Parallel
1 x Serial
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x 8-channel Audio I/O
1 x RJ45
1 x Optical S/PDIF Output
1 x Coaxial S/PDIF Output
4 x USB 2.0/1.1
1 x IEEE1394

Internal I/O Connectors
2 x USB 2.0 connector supports additional 4 USB 2.0 ports
CPU / Chassis / Power FAN connectors
20-pin ATX Power connector
4-pin ATX 12V Power connector
Chassis Intrusion
CD / AUX audio in
IEEE1394 port
GAME/MIDI connector
COM connector
Front panel audio connector

Manageability
WfM 2.0,DMI 2.0,WOL by PME,WOR by PME, Chassis Intrusion

Support CD
Drivers
ASUS PC Probe
Trend Micro PC-cillin 2002 anti-virus software (OEM version)
ASUS LiveUpdate Utility

Accessories
ASUS WiFi-g card (on Wireless edition only)
InterVideo WinDVD Suite Platinum
User's manual
2 x UltraDMA cables
IDE cable
FDD cable
4 x Serial ATA cables
2 x 2-port SATA power cables
2-port USB2.0 / Game module
I/O shield
IEEE1394 cable

Form Factor
ATX Form Factor, 12"x 9.6"(30.5cm x 24.5cm

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Nice mobo their Orph. Here are the requirements of the Geforce 6800 GT AGP.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="95%">
<tr><td colspan="3" class="tabletxtbold">System requirements

</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3" class="tabletxtbold" height="54">

• Pentium 4/III/II/Celeron,
  AMD K6/Athlon or compatible with AGP 2X or AGP
  2X/4X/8X universal slot</li>
• 64MB of system memory
• Installation software requires
  CD-ROM drive</li>
• DVD playback requires DVD
  drive</li>

</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3" class="tabletxtbold">This graphics card requires:</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3" class="tabletxt">

• A minimum 350W system power supply
• An AGP 2.0 ( or higher ) compliant motherboard.
  Some motherboards violate the AGP specification
  and
  
  therefore this card may not physically fit in
  some systems. </li>
• One available hard disk drive power dongle ( smaller
  floppy disk drive connector is not sufficient
  ).</li>

</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3" class="tabletxtbold">Full Software Support</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3" class="tabletxt">Microsoft DirectX 9 optimizations
and support

Complete OpenGL 1.5 support

WHQL Certified Windows XP, 2000, NT, ME, 98, 95

Complete Linux drivers, including full OpenGL</td></tr>
</table>

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

That's all great and dandy, but you could have goten it cheaper.

Other 6800 GT AGP Prices (USD)

eVGA ($319 + $30 Rebate)
ASUS ($399 PCI-E, if you found an AGP it'd be cheaper)
Gigabyte ($389)
MSI ($329)

Should I go on?

The PCI-E versions aren't much more and if you wait a few months the Ultras will drop too.

Personally, I would have suggested that MSI card, after all it's a respectable brand and it's cheaper.

I found another one by some obscure brand, the card was $299, however, I doubt it's worth it.

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Well if you have the links to those places I'd be happy to check them out Crono.

Perhaps you didn't read my other post, but the $460 including postage is Australian dollars, not US.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

I know. And $460 in AUS is about $360 USD.

I got those prices off of www.zipzoomfly.com

Shipping should never be THAT much. They offer 2-day free shipping. However, they're based in California and they say nothing (that I can find) about international sales. As far as I can see, it'd be acceptable.

I've known people to get stuff from them before, never bought anything myself from them though.

I suggest checking it out. But online buying is always a risk.

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Yeah, I find the problem with a lot of these US based sites is that
they have a tonne of info regarding US delivery, but nothing as far as
international delivery goes. It's a real pain in the ass, particularly
when the postage might cost $40 or more and you only find out once
you've put in your credit card details.

Sent them an email, hopefully they'll get back soon.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

Me too. Let's save you some money.

However, it was just an example. I'm sure there are places that ship internationally with low prices.

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Had a look at some pricings for postage from the US to Australia via
Fedex and USPS, the cheapest price is about $20 Aus (10 days to
deliver), getting up to $50-60 Aus (2-3 days to deliver). Not very
cheap posting parcels internationally.

Appreciate the help Crono, by the way.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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Because shipping stuff by air is more expensive. They need to build a bridge to all the nations and use Europe as a hub.

$20 AUS/ $10 USD isn't too bad. I've had to pay $12 (about $23 AUS) to ship packages through USPS ground before. They're becoming bastards and charging by distance too. Which, to be honest, is retarded since they govern the postal system across the entire US. But, that doesn't effect you.

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The eVGA card is a really good deal, comming in around $30-40 cheaper
than the one I'm looking at getting. Of course the eVGA and the Prolink
Pixelview cards both look EXACTLY the same. If you put them next to
each other you probably wouldn't be able to tell them apart, if you
ignored the tiny logo on the fan hub. Go figure.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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Well. I have no idea how they stand up to the test of time. I can vouch for MSI (Current card I have is a MSI GF4 Ti4200, it's been a great card for the last two/three years, BF2 is pretty much the only thing I can't run.) and, as much as I hate them, ASUS when regarding video cards. A friend of mine has a ASUS GF3 and it's still running well. It met its match about the time Far Cry came out.

I bet, if they're significantly cheaper they use a lower grade metal for the circuits. However, taking the price of some video cards, I'd expect them to be wired (completely) with Gold.

It's up to you, but I'd say rough it out for another couple weeks. The prices are still coming down. On that site two weeks ago they had the MSI NX6800 Ultra PCI-E at $520, on Sunday it was $489, today it's $469. (By the way, I keep mentioning that card, because it's the one I want. If you were wondering)
I bet the Ultra cards will be down to the $300 mark in a few months. But, you want one now :smile:

Hardware shopping is really tricky if you're unfamiliar with the brand. Since you have NO idea how it will perform. Not to mention you'll almost always find a review suggesting whatever it may be.

Anyway, I'll stop filling up your thread.

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Here's the link to the sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3762&item=5210069955&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

None of you people better snatch the last few away.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

The problem is virtually all online stores based in the US do not ship
internationally, which explains why the cheapest prices for the same
hardware here in Australia are up to and over $200 more than the US
price. The sellers over here know they have the market to themselves,
and will only drop their price slightly below the recommended retail
price. Bastards.

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'Get your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape!'

Agent Smith said:
The problem is virtually all online stores based in the US do not ship internationally,

If you could trust that the card was the one you wanted, and was not gonna bork on you, I would buy one here and ship it your way.. I imagine that the shipping would be far less than the mark up you are forced to pay.

Worth thinking on bud. :/

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Snatch the last few?! They have 213 remaining.

I was thinking that too, Orph. It'd be worth a shot. You have to remember, with most respectable products you can get a warrenty through the manufactuer. In a lot of cases it's a three year warrenty too. Lesser priced cards can't do that, obviously, because you're not paying for the repair bill in case something happens.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814125143

This is the one I'd buy if they would ship it here. And its not an OEM
copy either which is the best cause I can't live without box graphics
:smile: .

What do you mean 213 left, they only had 7 left last time I looked, that was how many they started with.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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Perhaps in the auction, but the store they're getting them from has several.

In Stock: 213 in stock

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Just an update, ended up getting a MSI 6600GT 128mb AGP the other day.
I couldn't really afford anything bigger, and I figured that within
6-12 months I should be in full-time employ, so will be able to build
the beast of a machine I want. It cost me $270 Australian, about $200
US. It can run BF2 with all medium settings at the moment, and once
I've overclocked my CPU (P4 2.8c HT) I should be able to squeeze a bit
more juice out. Not to mention the MSI card comes with a built in
overclock system, giving an extra 10% performance.

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Ham and Jam Contributor
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Don't overclock anything, you wont get a noticable difference. Seriously. Especially not with the CPU, it's idling most of the time anyway. :rolleyes:

But, that's a pretty good deal. Sadly you only plan on letting it last you a year, in which case the only hindering factor on it is that it's AGP and 128 MB, which isn't too bad, but you'd probably gotten more "bang" if you got a 256 MB card, more memory = less texture compression and farther draw distance.

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