Monitor died

Title sums it up pretty well... its about time I replaced it anyway. I'm sure a few of you know about these things, so I've got a few questions:

Can you reccomend some good brands? I found some nice-sounding BenQ ones for a reasonable price, but Samsung and Philips have some cheap ones too.
How important is response time? Would I notice the difference between 8 and 12ms?
Anything else I should be considering? Brightness/contrast, pixel pitch?

I'm considering this, specs here.

I'm now using an old crappy monitor. This site isnt very 800x600 friendly :sad:

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• My yr11 Economics teacher

Must be an old monitor indeed, most all monitors sold within the past 5 years will run 1024x768.

As to the question. Any monitor that runs 12 or below should suffice. Most new monitors, even the generic ones are about evenly made. Since this is a relatively new type monitor, they have yet to work out all the bugs so name brand or not makes little difference.

My only question, what card will be pushing it? Why not get you a better 19 or 21" CRT?

I prefer CRT's currently, more wallet friendly. :smile:

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My only question, what card will be pushing it? Why not get you a better 19 or 21" CRT?
I prefer CRT's currently, more wallet friendly. :smile:

You answered your own question :razz:

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How? What did I miss or worse, what part of my post was wrongly assumed?

My question was about his video card, I am not sure, but even with an adapter, many older cards might not run a flatscreen LCD.

My apologies in advance.

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Yeah, I just cant afford 19". I go to lan parties quite a bit, so I think the money I'll save on spinal surgery in later life should make up for it :biggrin:

Since youre curious Underdog, I'll be running it with a Radeon 9600pro. It has VGA and DVI, so the connector on the monitor shouldnt matter. Interestingly, this benq model is actually the cheapest one I can find. And yes, I am running a very old monitor.

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"If you talk at all during this lesson, you have detention. Do you understand?"

• My yr11 Economics teacher

Without looking at your profile I am assuming you do not live in my fair country as monitors are fairly cheap. I do however remember the days of toting a CRT from house to house and my old 15" nearly did me in, I can only imagine hefting my current 19" around. (ouch)

Good luck with your choices, and the 9600, it won't be sufficient much longer. Keep some change for a new card as well.

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How about brands to stay away from (for the most part) LCD-TFT

CLT (Just an overall poorly made brand. They're made for saving money though, so) .. or is it CTL? I don't remember.
Viewsonic (the dead pixel company)
Komodo (We don't know how to eliminate blur)
Compaq (if you can buy those separately)

You may want to go to Dell and see how much their monitors are: they're pretty nice. IBMs are nice, they last for a very long time.

Of course, Toshiba is alright, Um, Sony well ... they look good, but knowing Sony it'd probably break in half a year. Samsung and Phillips make TVs for a living, so I'm sure they're fine, however I've never had good experiences with Samsung or CHEAP Phillips products. However, anything that's incredibly expensive will probably last (unless it's from Sony ... and I'm being serious)

Hitatchi is nice too. But that's in the same "ring" as IBM. Overall though, I'd suggest Dell or a nice Mac monitor if you can find them for cheap. (I found one at Best Buy for $300 (USD), but didn't have money. The normal price, online, was $800)

Now, keep in mind I don't have all these monitors and can't speak for the test of time on them. SO, what I strongly suggest doing is take companies I suggested for and against, and go to their sites comparing monitors (and warranties ... this is important as it will tell you the life expectancy of the monitor)

Hope all that helps, I didn't read anything else others said, so.

If you want a really NICE monitor you could spend about $8K (USD) and it'll have digital connections.

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Forget everything anyone else has said, and get an Iiyama monitor. 17 inch one with DVI and top spec costs just under ?200. Me and my flatmate have them- theres not a single dead pixel on them and they haven't had any troubles.

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Why is Viewsonics known as the dead-pixel company? Interestingly enough, I have a Viewsonics LCD, and it does indeed have a few dead pixels.

Crono, you can predict the future.

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If you game, cheap LCD's tend to lag, and blur fsat movement. I also prefer CRT's they are cheaper, and if they do break are easier to fix.

My monitor also died a couple days ago, there was a whole burnt through the circuit board.

Yes, yes I can.

They're not really known as "The Dead Pixel Company", it's just their moderately priced LCD monitors are pretty common to have dead pixels ... even out of the box.

Myrk, I think I should point out, the brands I listed that were good are known to have no dead pixels inherent. But, if that's as good as it sounds, I say go for it. Always like to know of good products that I wasn't aware of before.

I've had my IBM TFT blah blah whatever version for about ... um ... 7 years? It was 2 years old when I got it ... It still works wonderfully. Not to mention it's constantly on ... so, that says a lot too. (We're talking 4 year stretches here.)

Why am I so hard on it? And pretty much all monitors? I never pay for them. The power button is "broken" or so it seems, it isn't, so the company my dad used to work for was throwing it out: free IBM monitor. Got a Hitachi 21" too. The one I have is on ebay for about $300. Another company throwout, just because they're old. But, damn it looks fantastic. The only problem is the thing weighs so much.

Dead pixels suck. I've also heard that if they're not "dead", as in if they stay one color ... that's technically "stuck" pixel or something and there might be a firmware fix ... since chances are there's nothing physically wrong with the crystal. Unless you touch it a lot ... which is bad ... no matter how cool it looks.

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The "dead" pixel looks black to me. It was a good deal when I bought it though (from Fry's Electronics).

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"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge

Yeah, everyone buys a Viewsonic from Fry's ... and those same people always have problems with dead pixels (yes, black = dead) ... just a correlation I noticed.

But, I've never met anyone who bought a Viewsonic from not Fry's. They all also go, "it was a good deal" ... I think it's just they don't want to look around for monitors and buy on impulse. Which is almost never a good idea when shopping for hardware.

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Well, I got a monitor. I ended up with a Fujitsu, got a good deal on it (old display model, which means no dead pixels). So far it seems good.

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"If you talk at all during this lesson, you have detention. Do you understand?"

• My yr11 Economics teacher

I don't want to sound like a dick or anything. But, Fujitsu has some of the most poorly made stuff I've ever seen. I didn't know they made monitors (though I should have guessed) ... otherwise I would have listed it as a "avoid" brand. Just because pretty much everything they make outside of Japan is really poorly made. Hard drives, CDs, everything shipped out of Japan. (Apparently, In Japan they're pretty good. Like in Taiwan ... or Thailand ... some other Asian country ... Gold Star is up there in the ranks. Here they're piss poor though)

But, I hope it works for you and stays in good condition, of course there's always like 70% of the products from them that work properly. Not to mention, I bet it's "better" than what you just had, so that's good too. Enjoy it ... but I would suggest you be gentle. Unless you have warranties ...

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Its far better than what was replacing it, and these arent things that "just die" after a few months... are they?

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"If you talk at all during this lesson, you have detention. Do you understand?"

• My yr11 Economics teacher

I can't give you a definite answer. Since, I don't have one and I haven't read anything about them. But, I am familiar with other products of theirs. Their HDDs, for example are pretty much the worst. If you can get a new partition on them: you're lucky. I've been successful maybe twice. Their CD-Rs are pathetic. Writing on them scratches off the data layer. Since, there isn't much between the label layer and data layer (other companies do this too, but they do it properly, so unless you're using a knife or a really sharp pen, you wont scratch it off).

I don't know anything about their film

I just generally stay away from them, like Sony.

But, anything could "die" after a determined amount of time, what ever that may be. I'd suggest, getting online and find a good number of sites that talk about the monitor and see what problems people are having, if any. Make a little bookmark area in your browser for them and title them by problem, in case you ever have the same issues.

One thing you really never want to have to worry about is your monitor ... It'd be the same if you had a really expensive Keyboard or something ... it's what you use to use the system, in the most direct sense, so it's not something you should even have to worry about. Of course, they die, but in general they should work for a long long time.

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Yeah it is wise doing a search for problems with a specific model
before taking the ordering plunge. I read a few reviews of my Leadtek
6800GT and all were positive so I ordered it. After a few months it
died with screen corruption appearing frequently (even at the bios), so
I searched and found out its a huge problem with that specific model.
Better to spend an afternoon researching than days of returning borked
equipment and waiting on replacements that might end up meeting the
same fate :sad:

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I did a search, apparently Fujitsu monitors have trouble running with Linux... but that shouldnt bother me for now. Also, Fujitsu make plasma TVs, so I guess their monitors cant be all that bad. It has a 3 year warranty anyway.

Also, when I saw it in the store, it had the best image quality out of about 4 monitors standing next to each other. I think the others were Samsung and LG models.

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"If you talk at all during this lesson, you have detention. Do you understand?"

• My yr11 Economics teacher

Yeah, but neither of those brands are any good either. LG is okay, I guess. They're coming up in the world. But, just because they make something else doesn't mean they use that technology to better any other product. A good example is their HDDs. They have SATA HDDs that go 15,000 RPMs (which implies it's rather a sound design, since that's twice the speed, which is harder to make)

But, it has a warranty: cool.

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