X-Men 3

X-Men 3

Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Fri May 26th 2006 at 4:54am
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What did you think about X-Men 3. (Drade A,B,C,D,F, or "no see")

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Personally, I loved the movie; however, it makes me question whether this film was the best way to portray the end. Great comicl relief and great scenes of tragedy and sorrow, but this film makes me long for more. What bother me a bout the ending though is that it makes me feel like there is going to be a sequal, when there's not. Explanation below

--spoiler-- (highligh for revelation)

At the end, after Magneto has lost his powers, he's at the chess table in the park, stairing at the last set up of his and Xaviers last game, then looks at the spot where Xavier used to sit (so sad). The part that bugs me is the millisecond before the credits, Magneto tries to use his powers again and attempts to move the king and manages to make a slight tilt. After the credits, a man in a braindead state wakes up and speakes to the nurse as Xavier (this is linked to a part earlier in the movie about putting a comotose into a braindead.)

--End Spoiler--

Also, something that'll probably bug ya'll, the director's and writers just appeared to try to through in as many important characters from the comics as they could. >>The winged man only makes 3 appearances in the film<< But all in all, this was an excellent film, although i could've been done better and maybe a little longer. (this is a finnally, it shoud'v been longer.)
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Windows 98 on Fri May 26th 2006 at 5:09am
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I am so tempted to read the spoiler, it hasnt come out inany theaters
near me yet (they dont do very many midnight showings). I have to wait
till tomorrow. But it looks good from the trailer.
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Fri May 26th 2006 at 5:15am
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You don't have any theatres near you doing midnight showings. Jeeze, their loosing big ones. My theatre is running 2 screens and almost ended up running a third. But then again, I work at a 24 screen theatre and we have 5 prints of X3. Sorry about your luck though. Just remember to wait till the end of the credits for a nice bit of "after-glee".
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Windows 98 on Fri May 26th 2006 at 5:16am
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I've heard theres a good secret scene.
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Fri May 26th 2006 at 5:19am
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The "after-credit" scene actually builds on an idea mentioned earlier in the film. Took me a minute to figure it out, but maybe with this hint, ya'll will figure out the relation in a second.
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Crono on Fri May 26th 2006 at 10:02am
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The theater I went to had 4 showings

Case and point: I'm pissed.
Orph, you want to talk about screwing things up? Here you go. The only thing I can think of is Fox wanted to make the most damaging movie they could before the franchise gets snatched away from them. This would also explain the risky 1 year production schedule that was attached to the project!

Also ... "Don't you know who I am? I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!!"

(Sadly, all those links are locked on YouTube, it has a lot of swearing but is hilarious.)

I gave it a C just because it isn't as bad as Batman and Robin or Blade Trinity.
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by $loth on Fri May 26th 2006 at 10:06pm
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I saw xmen 1 today, so I might go and see it in the future.... It's got a good rating on IMDB so I will probably see it.
Re: X-Men 3 Posted by rs6 on Sat May 27th 2006 at 2:10am
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Haven't seen it yet, but it looks liek an A, maybe a B from teh previews.
Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Gwil on Sat May 27th 2006 at 2:31am
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Didn't see it!

Is "E" not a grade in US academic scoring? We go to "G" (aye, or at
least we used to) - then "U" is a "F"ail (ie unrecorded, no mark to
process).
Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sat May 27th 2006 at 7:25am
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US Academic Scoring goes from A-D, then straight to F.

I saw the movie with some friends, and liked it. I voted B.

It was entertaining.
Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Sun May 28th 2006 at 12:36am
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I guess instead of "didn't see it" I should have said "Not going to see it"

-- Not above-- there is also a grade at the college level called a "W" which stands for withdrawn, but pretty much yes, only A,B,C,D,F. Pretty much, any grade bellow a 60 (except for knowledge tests) is not worth being mentioned. Like making a map so poorly constructed that it is worthless submitting it for a contest, unless thatr contest is for "The Worst Map Ever!"

--The show keeps selling out at my theatre (thank goodness I'm a booth operator) and people keep hearding in, even at 11:00 at night. You can really tell who's been on the Internet reading the forums about the "after-credits" twist. The plot of X3 is just so full of holes that the supporting plot is falling out beneath it. So much information has been cramed into such a tiny amount of time that this movie should've been longer. And some primary characters are appearing early on, looking as though they might play important roles, but end up only getting about 3-4 scenes out of the entire movie (the angel man). Not to mention that their are so many key characters thrown into the movie that only play small minor roles. The movie just doesn't feel like it should be X-men, although it does because the basic elements are there.

--Still a great movie; though, my favorite is still X2.
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun May 28th 2006 at 4:52am
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Going along with your second point Ben, Gambit was conspicuously missing from all 3 movies.
Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Crono on Sun May 28th 2006 at 6:08am
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They gave a nod to him in X2. His name is in the list of names on Deathstrike's computer screen as are many other mutants that never made it to the films.

The main reason the movie is not good (for an X-Movie) is because of the development rush. No Script to Release date was less than two years, Ratner was on the project about a year ago ... it's actually amazing that he and everyone else was able to pump this thing out at the quality it is. However, it still isn't even close to on par with the others.

I don't give two s**ts how many people keep saying X3 is better than X-Men, because that's garbage. While the main plot is better (The Astonishing X-Men cure and Eric vs. Charles' idealism against Magento's mutant machine ... there's no question) but as Y2KBen (and many other people) have pointed out: They tried to do too much in so little time. The movie is barely over an hour and thirty minutes and that's just ludicrous for the amount of characters and the story they tried to scope in. (They could have just left Jean dead and not immediately pursued the Dark Phoenix saga)

I've been thinking about this movie more, and I still don't know if I'd see it again, but several things have made me feel better about it. A) there are several ways to make it "alright", by pursuing future story arcs (Age of Apocalypse, for example). B) I do see these movies as another universe, since that happens all the time with the books. And some books have done TERRIBLE Phoenix arcs. I had a pretty sweet idea, actually, if they went on with the series, did a whole AoP thing and then had another X universe cross over (it'd make sense if you knew the AoP stuff) They could introduce many new aspects of plot, characters, and badassery. Not to mention, that stuff could seamlessly "destroy" this universe and lead back to a new one! (It happens all the time.)

I do, however, hope Marvel is trying to recollect all their film assets to in house. Because then they could pursue (wisely) crossovers. I'd go apes**t and have a heart attack if they did any sort of Avengers.

Also, as for grades, many schools have different grades. My university has A-D, F, W, X, P, NP ... uh ... I. and some other ones. W is withdrawn, X is "no basis for grade", P and NP are pass/no pass, an I indicates an Incomplete contract. We also have plus and minus for B-D, and a Minus for A .. for some reason there's no way to get an A . And for degree courses, you can't get lower than a C. That's right, miss those two points on the final that bump you down to C- ... you have to retake the class ... all $500 worth. Bastards.
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by omegaslayer on Sun May 28th 2006 at 8:25am
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Just got back from the movie - and I have to agree that they tried to fit too much in such a short amount of time.

Im kinda torn between liking it and not. Much like coyboy
bebob/fullmetal alchemist it leaves a hole in hte characters. I really
cant explain what I mean without spoiling the plot, so here it is:

<Plot spoil>

Gene - xavier - Scott all dying just left a
hole in the charcters, I mean it didnt end with the happy ending, but
the way the series built it up Gene and Scott were suppost to end up
together and live happily ever after; However that wasnt the case,
which is fine - it breaks the sappy cycle.

<End Plot Spoil>

Thats it :biggrin:
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Sun May 28th 2006 at 1:58pm
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As Omega said, killing off several of the main X-men characters early on ended up botching the film. Although they attempted to replace the team with teenage versions from the recent stories, without those key characters, though, it just didn't feel like The X-Men.

In fact, it almost looks as though they tried to pursue two different plots, and I agree that they should have persued a seperate film about the Pheonix. But, if you think about it though, this trilogy, with the amount of plot to back it up, could easily turn into a 6-tilogy or Decilogy, too m any films to keep the intrest of the casual movie fan.

--But the films already been ruined by Fox. Foxes greedy ways have yet again undermined what could have been a great flick,( ahem, FireFly ) instead of waiting for the license to expire and just pay a bit more money to renew the license and have more time (and more movies) to properly play out the X-men universe.

>I'd continue, but I'm late for work.


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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Campaignjunkie on Tue May 30th 2006 at 5:27am
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Did anyone notice how it changed instantly from day to night before the "big battle"? Sloppy. REALLY sloppy. I was disappointed by the whole movie in general. Except that Juggernaut line. That was awesome.
Re: X-Men 3 Posted by Crono on Tue May 30th 2006 at 6:09am
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Note: Almost all my posts in this thread will consist of spoilers, I'm not going to particularly hold back at this point :smile:
CampaignJunkie said:
Did anyone notice how it changed instantly from day to night before the "big battle"? Sloppy. REALLY sloppy. I was disappointed by the whole movie in general. Except that Juggernaut line. That was awesome.
Yes.

Did you also notice that Cyclopes went from New York to Alaska on a motorcycle in about a day?

Or that Angel suddenly appeared in California to save his dad when he was previously at the school in Westchester?

What I found most annoying was that nothing in the movie is final. The only person "confirmed" dead is Jean. (Scott's body was never shown, nor his actual death. Xavier is in a new body as well.) The cure is not permanent. It's like the end of X2, but not nearly as good.

I will admit though, Xavier's death scene is incredible. The only disappointing part is that Magneto didn't flip out after seeing his best friend murdered. (In comic continuity, when Xavier is dying [one of the times] he asks Eric to watch over the X-Men, in honor of his friend, he does so and leads them nobly. That's how good of friends they are!)
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Re: X-Men 3 Posted by reaper47 on Tue May 30th 2006 at 2:45pm
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I've never been a fan of fantasy universes.

Going from from New York to Alaska on a motorcycle in about a day is harmless. It already starts here: What gene can give you the power to move friggin' metal plates with your brain? What does that gene look like? Like little elecromagnets? Since when a cure can re-do the prenatal development of your body. It makes no sense. Not even in a metaphorical alter-universe. It would be ok if the movies didn't take themselves so serious. But they do. I feel like like watching a drama about grown up Harry Potters.