dm_subculture

Hi guys

I`m almost done with a new map and I would love to hear some feedback (positive or negative all are welcome :smile: )

sorry , no screenies for now :/ but here is the link : http://www.henchmansion.com/temp/dm_subculture_b1.zip

the setting of the map is ... erm well kinda a fantasy underground bunker/facillity

It is no way a realistic map :smile: but for me goes : i like fast medium sized maps wich are fun to play , so i try to make maps this way.

If you like that kind of maps too, plz try this one and let me know what u think of it

grtz, Henchie

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btw....

I started all over with this map , the comments on the maps page are old :smile: (and the old screenies i just deleted..)

I noticed, 13 hours and no comments. So I clicked the download link and.... It borked.

Perhaps a better download location is in order.

Screenshots will at least get you some feedback. I suggest you post some "optimized" ones soonish.

[edit] download finally established. Man, what a sucky connection. I will try to post some comments later.

If its critique worthy, I will post one. The price is one map rating. You will need to download one of my maps and rate it.

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Heheheh ok deal orpheus :smile:

(but i only can find hl1 maps of you is that right ?)

Right. Nothing HL2 has been released to date.

I have a rather busy day so it could be a while... No promises.

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:biggrin:

in the mean time i added some screenies of mine

(btw your hl1 map(s) look great !)

Hench said:
(btw your hl1 map(s) look great !)

Fibbing isn't going to sway me bud.
I will look ASAP.

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Umm im confused now?

Hey hench mate, I'll try and have a run through this some time soon and give you my thoughts :smile: And don't mind Orph's last comment, he never was comfortable with people complimenting his maps :wink:

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DM_Subculture Critique

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WOW !!

you sure took your time for it (thanks !!!) i will take the screenshots as a guide to improve it . I`m myself not really proud at the lightning maybe i better use light spots more often

btw too HL1 style i take as a compliment (for this map) :smile:

Hench said:
you sure took your time for it (thanks !!!)

Where do you live? This I assume is a compliment since you said thanx but, it reads "I took my time" meaning "to long"

Or,

"You took your time" meaning "Attention to detail"

Glad you liked it. Now, go find one of my maps and download it for a rating. :smile:

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im from holland

and it was a compliment yeah :smile:

Where is my map rating?

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Orpheus said:
Where is my map rating?

Not to derail the thread, (Nice critique there btw, love the web album thingy, and all valid remarks), but how about a hl2DM map from you now Orph. You seem ready. (perhaps a new thread in general section to address this?)

Dude, I have so many ideas for a map that its amazing, even to myself but..

I just got in from a 5 day series of runs. I am so tired its sickening but, this is the busy time and I must contend. Also, being on 56k has disheartened me to the point to where making a map, but never being able to play it to test even its construction aspects is sad.

Lastly, HL2 got boring with the 4,000th or perhaps the 5,000th toilet toss in my face.

I have however been giving thought to making something. A map named Killbox_Canyon. It would combine my worse idea for maps "Killboxes" with my hardest making idea, "Rocks"

The idea of a box canyon intrigues me. It might encourage me to do it. Also, the idea of making a map theme I hate, just to prove that a box can be pretty, is also a motivation.

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i was sick this week (no s**t !) btw when i`m gonna rate your mappies , then it will be screenshot ratings (i dont have HL1 installed) does they count too?

/edit : mmm just wanted to give double trouble an 8 (nice piccy) then i noticed : do not rate this map unless you have actually played it!

what now ? :smile:

Not really. Its actually against the rules.

Glad to have helped none the less. Go spruce your map up a bit. :smile:

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its clear that you have mapping skills so i`m sure :one day there will be a hl2 map of you for me to rate :smile: (btw do like i do: dont put in toilets to throw i dont like that myself...noobish gameplay :sad: )

k, and now im gonna spruce ? my map up its time for a release soon!!!

(btw spruce ... ?!? im dutch(no my name is not Van Buren :smile: ) so that is a new word to me :smile: , never to old to learn hehehe)

Spruce

Look for anything that means to make pretty/nice/enhanced.

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beta 2 is done : http://www.henchmansion.com/Henchmapsion/hl2maps/dm_subculture_b2.zip

i would love to hear some gameplay feedback !

grtz, Henchie

sighs deeply and puts on fatherly charm

Master Hench, its never wise to release a map without a readme text, or in such a text to forget those who got you to this glorious stage in your career.

/me looks at map now.

Connectivity is great.
Ladders still malfunction but, are serviceable.
Items are heavy. I think to heavy but I know some who like it so.
My only complaint. The lighting doesn't have enough variation to create an atmosphere. No dim spooky areas. Everything, is uniform.

Overall, a decent map. It needed another critique... Not from me but another before release.

Like Orphes said, connectivity is great. Big open spaces to jump around and good use of vertical viewpoints. I like the little "secret" areas and hidden items, they give it what I consider the "HL feel", a sense of exploration

Texturing is well done but it's true that the Source engine is capable of more detail without any major loss in FPS. More borders for walls and especially doorways would have been nice. The lighting is great. Just the ceilings are too bright. Maybe spotlights could have been used instead of pointlights in places for more contrast.

I liked dog making an appearance. The stalker was a bit too much, though. A little gag but it somehow destroys the feeling of a real place. Also the statue has no connection to the rest of the map. I felt it being irritating because of the theme change. I know what it's supposed to be but maybe it could be a little more subtle. The statue just stands there.

The rocks near the train could use some displacements. The brush-based pipes look out of place in HL2 and should be models. The wooden structure in one of the rooms has a mis-aligned plank texture on the side and could be thinner.

I give it an 8, very good map. Don't be disappointed if a new release gets an 8 from me too, though. The theme is a bit old/HL1ish and that's probably my main complaint. Otherwise a very nice map.