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The internet, especially personal opinions, like you read them in forums are no more less a source of information or shaping your few than any other place. Sometimes you just talk about stuff for no reason, just because it bothers you. And the product of all the talk and thinking shows much later (or never) in places you'd never expected.

If someone is taking his own life for whatever reason it bothers me. It happens, it's part of this world but where does it fit in my view of the world. I don't enjoy thinking about it but I do.

Something that came to my mind thinking about wheter suicide is a psychological disorder or just a panicky reaction was that it's always bound to a long-term thought and the awareness of death. It's a result of conciousness. An animal could never commit suicide. Neither could a small kid. It has to be planned. I find that rather intersting. Maybe it's just intelligence going in a wrong circle. Weird.

Andrei, there was a little article about some actress in Time magazine the other day that talked about her coming out about being sexually abused by her uncle when she was 5 years old. It took her 30 years to come out about the sexual abuse, and the reason she finally revealed her secret, was because the same uncle sexually abused another little girl and in order for a case to be made against this uncle the actress had to testify. Anyway, this little girl was raped and sexually abused by her uncle between the ages of 5 and 14. At 14 she killed herself. The only reason I'm bringing this story up is because it seems to me this girl's problems weren't all in her head at all. I'm wondering, what do you think the girl should have done instead? Was suicide justifiable in her case? Would anyone be able to understand why she took her life?

DrGlass said:
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99% of the time people don't change their opinion, even in the face a
hard facts or poetic phrasing. I see arguments and disscution as
a way to add to your personal understanding, not as a way to get people
on your side. We all must obviously think about this stuff, so
why not post it? If just for the illusion that we arn't talking
to ourselves?

I agree 100%

I'm sorry he did this :sad: He was great person to work with, and he always made you feel good when you contributed something.

Deeper thoughts for me follow as this: I'm a Roman Catholic. My religion believes in heaven and in hell: I believe that our religion feels that intentional suicide is a mortal sin, and thus, you (I say "you" in the most general and vague way out there. I am not attempting to force my beliefs upon anyone) wind up in hell.

Now, I know that probably sounds very nuts-and-bolts, like it's some sort of hard-boiled system that can be cheated, if you know what you're doing. But I feel that if Nickster truly wanted to find out if there was an after life, then he should have just lived out his life. Commiting suicide certainly didn't help him, if hell does exist.

People. There is "Truth" and "Tact"

Perhaps some of you need look up the tact bit?

I am 100% for a debate about suicide, but having it within a mourning thread EVEN ONE about someone we know absolutely nothing about is bordering on criminal.

You know me, I am all for freedoms of speech but... Please think about it.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

Well said Orpheus.

Addicted to Morphine said:
Andrei, there was a little article about some actress in Time magazine the other day that talked about her coming out about being sexually abused by her uncle when she was 5 years old. It took her 30 years to come out about the sexual abuse, and the reason she finally revealed her secret, was because the same uncle sexually abused another little girl and in order for a case to be made against this uncle the actress had to testify. Anyway, this little girl was raped and sexually abused by her uncle between the ages of 5 and 14. At 14 she killed herself. The only reason I'm bringing this story up is because it seems to me this girl's problems weren't all in her head at all. I'm wondering, what do you think the girl should have done instead? Was suicide justifiable in her case? Would anyone be able to understand why she took her life?

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<DIV class=quotetext><BR style="COLOR: white">99% of the time people don't change their opinion, even in the face a hard facts or poetic phrasing. I see arguments and disscution as a way to add to your personal understanding, not as a way to get people on your side. We all must obviously think about this stuff, so why not post it? If just for the illusion that we arn't talking to ourselves?

I agree 100%
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I was going to bring up something similar earlier but it seems the forum deleted what I said and just left the quote.

As far as changing opinions go, I must be part of that small 1%. I believe I'm an entirely different person now than I was just a year ago, and these forums have a part in that change. However it's never good to simply change one's opinion because another sounds better. If we did that we'd all be the sheep to big media.

Let the poor man be already...

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