do u acept death?

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<DIV class=quotetext>As this thread scattered to bits anyway... I'd like to tell you, Orpheus, that your last post about you getting offended much earlier (and probably outside what you can see in this thread) really helps me to see your comments in a different light.

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Sometimes I use sentences and phrases that mean absolutely nothing to me. Should be shot, by no means signifies that people need stand against a wall and be used for target practice. Its more akin to mean something much less significant like" should be slapped" or milder still "should be deterred"

Sometimes speech mannerisms just don't cross the pond very well.

I seem to recall a predicament where a certain Snarkpit member got his panties twisted because I told him he was being a prick. To me, it means "nuisance" to him it meant genitalia.

Go figure. shrugs

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Bewbies said:
you can't really see someone's point of view without respecting it, and understanding it.

..additionally, you can't dismiss it without understanding it.

Sure you can. I can see that a sheep farmer would want to shoot a wolf for killing his livestock, but I would try to capture the wolf and relocate it. I would not respect his decision to kill the wolf.

Inversely, if we were talking about death and someone was talking about the death of an atom through the collision of the electrons, I could dismiss it as irrelevant. I do not need to understand physics to dismiss the notion that the death of an electron is still a form of dying. It may be death, but its totally unrelated to the topic.

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You can't expect that what you say wont get responded to. If you put an idea out on these public forums it will be scrutinized. I feel that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs but that shouldn't stop anyone from talking about other's ideas and thoughts.

honestly a forum where we all just post our thoughts on a topic and don't have any discourse seems kinda boring. I want people to respond to my thoughts so I can better understand them.

I apologized because I hate how fierce these little arguments get, and I got sucked in as I some times do.

DrGlass said:
You can't expect that what you say wont get responded to. If you put an idea out on these public forums it will be scrutinized. I feel that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs but that shouldn't stop anyone from talking about other's ideas and thoughts.

honestly a forum where we all just post our thoughts on a topic and don't have any discourse seems kinda boring. I want people to respond to my thoughts so I can better understand them.

You're still trying to lessen the impact of how you respond by insinuating that you are doing what you do because it should be allowed. In an open forum anything may come up, but its the "how" thats important. There are topics that I could get passionate about. There are topics I barely glance at until someone drags me in by saying something that many others wouldn't even notice.

The point is, you must draw some sort of a boundary for yourself. Then you must accept that if you are willing to cross it to make your position, you must also accept that you will be hurt while doing so.

What you should never do however is cross that line by making it a personal attack by specifically singling someone out as your opponent.

My original statement in this thread was fairly broad spectrum in the respect that I was basically standing on some mountaintop stating my disdain for funerals. It altered at the junction where I was singled out for combat.

It could have gone down differently. It could have been worse. It could also have been avoided by thinking out a reply prior to my next involvement.

In the end... If I feel that I have taken the plunge and that I am willing to cross my boundary, be prepared because you're fixin to get the whole ball of worms.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

There are topics I barely glance at until someone drags me in by saying something that many others wouldn't even notice.

You could say that I was "dragged" into this (I guess the fight you and I are haveing, I'm not sure at this point) because I felt that the topic was turning sour. Note that I didn't have anything to say about your original quote.

The point is, you must draw some sort of a boundary for yourself. Then you must accept that if you are willing to cross it to make your position, you must also accept that you will be hurt while doing so.

So when you say something that some people will find abrasive don't you think that you're crossing "a boundary" and should be prepared to "be hurt?"

What you should never do however is cross that line by making it a personal attack by specifically singling someone out as your opponent.

Honestly, everyone here does that. Think about when nickel says something you don't agree with, you don't drag his name into it but you respond to his comment. Everyone knows WHO your talking to, you just don't have to say it. When ever anyone quotes another person and responds that is person is singled out.

My original statement in this thread was fairly broad spectrum in the respect that I was basically standing on some mountaintop stating my disdain for funerals. It altered at the junction where I was singled out for combat.

Again, I didn't have anything to say about your opinions on funerals. I did, however, say something when you allowed other people's responses to turn yet another thread into some rant about how people pick on you and there is no sanctuary for opinion.

It could have gone down differently. It could have been worse. It could also have been avoided by thinking out a reply prior to my next involvement.

Right, I could have said "some people bring these kinds of arguments onto themselves and I think they do it on purpose, if not consciously then subconsciously" but I didn't beat around the bush, and for that I apologized. But you wont let me so here we are... exchanging threats (see below)

In the end... If I feel that I have taken the plunge and that I am willing to cross my boundary, be prepared because you're fixin to get the whole ball of worms.

:rolleyes:

All you need is love, love. Love is all you need.

woosh

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the players tried to take the field
the marching band refused to yield

DrGlass said:
:rolleyes:

How does one continue a conversation when the other person deliberately sabotages themselves thereby rendering everything they posted before this smiley moot?

I call myself stupid but only with reference to the average IQ of this site. I am hardly a moron however. I am smart enough to know that you more than likely read my reply at least once. More so prolly because you broke it down into its parts. BUT when you add that closing smiley it telegraphs to the entire world that you have nothing but contempt on your mind and ruin any chances of making and having your reply received in any mature fashion.

For people who do not want to be thought of as children, you seem hell bent on proving your point to the contrary.

I read your reply and was thinking to myself (in no particular order)

That sounds OK, Thats bulls**t, thats not bad, Thats more bulls**t, etc,etc. I keep thinking to myself that its odd that you get so close to making a good point but fall short. I cannot understand the perpetuity to making this childishness continue. Then I get to the end and see the eyeroll

Its no wonder. Your mind is made up and your only going through the motions of being civil in the hopes that you won't look like an asshole.

Its really sad when you think about it.

Anyway, I can see that you aren't ready yet. And it looks like you won't be anytime soon.

I do have a thought: Unless you are some kind of a retard, you will eventually understand.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

Or maybe your reading too much into a silly giff animation so you don't have to respond to the true content.

I don't mind being an ass hole, I don't care if I'm a child.

I do, however, care if I'm labeled with no kind of explanation. You see that's what gets my goat when you say things like:

Anyway, I can see that you aren't ready yet. And it looks like you won't be anytime soon.

I do have a thought: Unless you are some kind of a retard, you will eventually understand.

what do I not understand? Is it impossible to say "it." Can you not summarize what I need to be "ready" for? I don't think you can, and the above post proves that to me.

I'll tell you what I my short time on earth has told me, grown-ups use a few simple tactics to avoid truth.
1.) misdirection, as seen in the rant about the :rolleyes: People don't want to answer the question so they change the topic.
2.) vagueness, "You just don't understand, and you wont until your older" How many times have I heard that. Sure it might very well be true, but if you can't put what I "can't understand" into words, I say YOU too don't understand. "why am I right? Because! now sit down and shut up"

If its immature to want to be not be talked down to, then yes. I am a child.

would this be a "mature" response to your final words -

In the end... If I feel that I have taken the plunge and that I am willing to cross my boundary, be prepared because you're fixin to get the whole ball of worms.

What exactly is your threat? You going to use "stronger" opinions on me?

I just summed that up with a :rolleyes: (which is just another visual cue to display emotion... like a smily face :smile: )

You've said enough for a while Doc. I vote we let this drop. If we do not, its liable to move to the next level.

My honest opinion, neither of us wants to admit that the other might have a point. We both are refusing to bend.

For supposedly open minded individuals, it is decidedly counter productive.

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The best things in life, aren't things.