The blame game.

The blame game.

Re: The blame game. Posted by French Toast on Wed Feb 28th 2007 at 10:22pm
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The columbine shooters did map for Doom (this always gives me goosebumps).
Yeah, but that probably means dick. I bet they rode skateboards. Clearly that's why they did it.

These people had a problem far separate from video games, and there has always been teenage angst. My theory is instead of cutting of access to video games, CUT OFF ACCESS TO ASSAULT RIFLES. Why are people in a roar about video games? There are 15 year olds with automatic rifles.

That's the problem.
Re: The blame game. Posted by reaper47 on Wed Feb 28th 2007 at 10:44pm
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Like I said, the only coincidence is the timeline.

I'd like to find the core of this whole discussion and from what I found so far it's the time.

Like you said, FPS games and even mapping is probably as common as skateboarding today.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by G.Ballblue on Wed Feb 28th 2007 at 11:37pm
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While this is somewhat off topic, I would quickly like to say that their Doom maps were average anyway. :razz: So there's no need to get goosebumps or worry about it. I played one of them, it was a whole lot of meh, nothing special. Forgot about 1 hour later.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by fishy on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 12:25am
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they should make books illegal too. far too much violence in books.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by Orpheus on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 3:36am
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fishy said:
they should make books illegal too. far too much violence in books.
f**k while we're at it lets champaign to abolish marriage. There's far more violence witnessed by children through that medium than all the video games combined. :rolleyes:

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Re: The blame game. Posted by Agent Smith on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 4:49am
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Orpheus said:
f**k while we're at it lets champaign to abolish marriage. There's far more violence witnessed by children through that medium than all the video games combined. :rolleyes:
Not really a big fan of champaign to be honest. Could go for some campaigning though :biggrin: .
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Re: The blame game. Posted by reaper47 on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 12:11pm
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hehe... thanks, guys, for cheering me up. I think I can digest the situation now, order a new copy of HL (won't cost me a fortune) and continue happily.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by pepper on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 2:59pm
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I think you acidentaly locked the gore content, everything is fine in my install.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by reaper47 on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 3:09pm
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I assure you, I didn't :wink:
No, I think I have the worst case scenario for this regarding game versions/Steam licensing and serial numbers. It's a problem with game versions Steam runs under a "German" license. Living in Germany doesn't seem to have much to do with it.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by pepper on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 3:26pm
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That sucks badly!
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Re: The blame game. Posted by Foxpup on Thu Mar 1st 2007 at 10:20pm
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While this is somewhat off topic, I would quickly like to say that their Doom maps were average anyway. :razz: So there's no need to get goosebumps or worry about it. I played one of them, it was a whole lot of meh, nothing special. Forgot about 1 hour later.
Which map was this? The only less-than-awesome maps he made I can think of were BRICKS.WAD and KILLER.WAD. Hey, STATION.WAD was in AOL's top 25 DM WADs.

Moving slighter closer to the original topic, it is possible that Harris did make a map resembling the school, since 6 of his maps have disappeared since the shooting. They are OUTDOORS.WAD, REALDETH.WAD, TECHOUT.WAD, THRASHER.WAD, ASSAULT.WAD and REALDOOM.WAD.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by reaper47 on Fri Mar 2nd 2007 at 12:01am
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This was a rumor according to snopes.com. Which, albeit being a pretty weird internet website, is an expert on urban myths of this kind, so I trust them.

The German lunatic in Emstetten (I think?) made a CS level of his school, I've seen it on TV (complete with "horror music" in the background added by the TV station and comments from traumatized schoolmates that had no clue what was going on). I'm pretty sure he heard the rumor of the Columbine levels and wanted to copy them to because the media made it look like this was a mandatory part of becoming a super-insane college shooter. Sad. That's what I meant when I talked about self-fulfilling prophecies.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by OtZman on Fri Mar 2nd 2007 at 7:00am
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Hmm, me and a friend made a HL2 map of parts of our highshool as a school project. I thoroughly enjoyed showing videos from ingame when we brutally killed zombies and soldiers in our school. Headshots, blowing the zombies in pieces, shoting them when they came crawling towards you, smashing all the windows and furniture.... all good stuff. All accompanied with brutal metal music. I can add that the map was very accurate and everyone recognized the school. More than one teacher watching muttered how violent it was. :razz:

Well, it's easily one of my proudest creations ever, not just mapping wise. And we won prize for the best project... lucky us it was the students that voted and not the teachers.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by reaper47 on Fri Mar 2nd 2007 at 1:00pm
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Yea, I made one of my school, too. That's not really the point, I think.
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Re: The blame game. Posted by OtZman on Fri Mar 2nd 2007 at 2:15pm
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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting reaper47</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Yea, I made one of my school, too. That's not really the point, I think.</DIV></DIV>
I know, I just found it amusing. Guess I gotta go kill some people at my old school now. When we asked for blueprints of the school they were reluctant to give them to us, and joked that we might've been terrorist.
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