Anyone Play GTA?

Anyone like GTA? Have a look at this video of me demonstrating some serious skills on vigilante mode on Vice City..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EaHaxKBvFKY

lol

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Was so long ago I played GTA:VC I've forgotten what vigilante mode is. :razz:

Great game though, I remember feeling all addicted to it when I started playing.

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Does anyone here play Vice City Multiplayer? (Not Multi Theft Auto)

Played GTA a bit.... sucks tbh.

I loved Vice City, but i hated all the others. Nice skills in the vid buy the way.

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Loved the music in vice city, i found the rest the same as other GTA games really.
Want to see what they do o ntheir 4th version of the game though, hope they make some major changes because all 3 3d versions were the same with only updated features and a different playlist, imo.

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I heard that if you play GTA San Andreas on the ps3 with the ps2 version of the game, it looks 10x better. I agree, I think that Vice City was probably the most well made one out of the series. I did like some of the new features that came around in San Andreas. But I only played it until I unlocked all four areas and the airport, after that I played the multiplayer aspect when a friend would come over with cheats enabled. :biggrin: But that's about it. GTA IV looks pretty nice in graphics though.

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Yeah I agree, I think Vice City was the best. Much better game than HL2 overall. The way it's open-ended is really fun. Plus the explosions are awesome, as is the humour.

And yeah GTA4 looks like it's gonna be good. Seems like they're going back to the Vice City style of being more realistic again. San Andreas was a bit cartoony for my liking. It's interesting, I was saying to my friend the other day, Sony better drop the price of the PS3 before it comes out otherwise Microsoft are going to sell a lot of 360s off GTA4..

Nothing in the video I hadn't done myself :biggrin:

Vice City was pure style. What a cool idea to make a game that celebrates the 80ies.

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Vice City is terrible. The two islands are flat and too narrow for any interesting layouts, which pales in comparison to GTA3's awesome first and second islands. Instead of making the police less suicidal and insane they added stopsticks which make any extended police chase a guaranteed loss, forcing you to use the paintshop for every mission you get multiple stars.

Then theres vigilante mode, which was my favorite part of GTA3, and its much improved. However, the above two points hurt it, as if you get three stars you're f**ked and you spend lots of time driving through boring straightaways and have few shortcuts to quickly get around. Perhaps these things can be overlooked, but the very worst part is that the criminals all respawn in very limited locations and constantly follow the same path everywhere. You just sit in a small area constantly killing the same spawning criminals over and over, cause once you are in that area you aren't going to have any criminals outside of it. This is easily seen near the airport on the second island, you can spend hours there and you will never get chases away from it until you just leave the airport. I didn't watch the video but it takes very little time to get over 250 kills with a tank in the airport area, its just that dumb.

Its too bad cause there's lots of cool additions and better cars in VC, but they didn't bother working on the core game so its a waste of time.

Yak, I agree that the cops are harder on VC. I also agree that the Vigilante missions can get stuck around a certain area for quite a while. As for the tank being the only way to get kills and if you've got three cop stars you're screwed... take a look at this, my other video:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b3X3kYf16m4&mode=related&search=

That includes highlights of a go in which I get over 400 kills, and I never use the tank- plus I often get loads of cops after me. It's not as funny as the other video but there you go.

Great, I love posts that start with "Your be-loved game/movie/band is terrible".

GTA:VC has more well executed ideas packed into it than you can shake a stick at. I always found GTA3 to look very pale compared to it, starting with the fact that the main character actually speaks in VC (this ain't a FPS).

The layout is a bit more stretched than GTA3's, but for a game that is mainly about fast cars, the longer streets make sense. Even if it's worse than GTA3 for any personal opinion, calling it terrible and a waste of time is load of BS to me.

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...and I love posts where somebody cries over someone else's opinion on the internet. Would you have preferred it if I said VC was "bitterly disappointing", "waste of fifty bucks", "poorly done cash-in that fixes almost none of the issues from GTA3 but adds pointless details that help everyone overlook the obvious flaws and go, wow, look at that feature!" ?

The only additions in VC that were awesome were the motorcycles, the better vehicle models that look like their real-world equivalents, the shooting through windshields, being able to dive out of moving cars, and I remember something improved about car doors. And of course the licensed music for the radio is great.

None of these things make up for the horribly designed city, the truly awful gimmick missions (boat, plane, toy helicopter...), and the fact that a ton of the missions don't even involve vehicles and are more about entering buildings and third person 'gunplay'. Hell, you don't even touch a vehicle in the final mission... and the f**king cops can still arrest you despite your car moving. But your guy speaks during the lame story AND you can recreate the climax of Scarface for no real reason! I love the 80s!

Also, there were plenty of 'fast cars' in GTA3 (since VC's sports cars are just reskinned GTA3 sports cars, apparently looking like a real Ferrari instead of a mockup makes the car faster?), and its islands had just as many long avenues for high speed driving. Not that you'd really want to use the fastest cars since they had way oversensitive handling, but to each their own. The difference is in VC it pretty much only had long avenues for high speed driving and not much else, there were few shortcuts and fewer paths to take around, almost as if Rockstar took the third island in GTA3 and decided it was the best and designed VC around it. The whole game is about driving around a city, and that city was poorly designed which obviously affects the entire game. This is map design 101 here. The best gameplay in the world means dick when you have a s**t map (killbox anyone?). Vigilante was endlessly entertaining in GTA3 and was one of the reasons I played it so much, but like I said previously VC crapped all over that because they didn't fix the flaws and/or added new ones. Add in the worse islands and vigilante becomes much less fun.

There were plenty of cool things in VC but the problem is they built it upon the really fun but flawed GTA3 gameplay but added nothing to fix the foundation so it still had all the annoyances that are no longer inexcusable when they've clearly known about the issues and did nothing to fix them, instead focusing on more gimmicks. So yes, it was a waste of time if I wanted an improved GTA3.

The only additions in VC that were awesome were the motorcycles...

I concur.

Also, there were plenty of 'fast cars' in GTA3 (since VC's sports cars are just reskinned GTA3 sports cars, apparently looking like a real Ferrari instead of a mockup makes the car faster?), and its islands had just as many long avenues for high speed driving. Not that you'd really want to use the fastest cars since they had way oversensitive handling, but to each their own.

The one thing I thought was really nice about GTA3 (I assume it's still in VC) is that, even though this wasn't readily available, all the vehicles has configuration files that had the vehicles "specs" and were read in when the game was next loaded. There's a program out there that allows you to load up the archives that has the cars in them and alter these values, allowing you to fine tune the vehicles. There's quite a bit of options (even down to wheel alignment and garbage like that) that will allow you to make the car handling much more realistic (Or unrealistic).

I remember making the whatever-sport-car-it-was-in-the-first-portion-of-liberty-cities-car-dealer more like Porsche handling than piece-of-s**t handling.

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I just don't like posts that start with underlying "Fools! You're all wrong/misguided!!!1" messages, to get people's attention with a bang. Even if what follows is a reasonable opinion. I know everybody does it (including myself at times), but that doesn't make it less trollish and avoidable.

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