dm_laststop_beta

Hey all, just wanted to let everyone know that DM_Laststop_beta can be
found here on snarkpit for download and beta testing. Comments are
welcomed.

http://www.snarkpit.net/maps.php?map=2010

The map is part of a two-map 'Abandoned Places' map set, with DM_Slanska. Both maps can also be found at [size=13][url=http:///fonthttp://abandoned.hlgaming.com/font face=]http://abandoned.hlgaming.com/[/url]

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Just had a very quick runaround- the lighting needs more variation (too blue), it's very linear and somewhat squashed on the platform, and you can jam the trains by chucking a prop onto the tracks :smile: I do like the entrace hall to the station, though.

Eh. I think the lighting is right for an abandoned subway/train
station. That is if there are ghosts flipping the lights on every
morning.

And if it's abandoned whos paying this electrical bill?

:razz:

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Nickelplate is my dad

Eh. I think the lighting is right for an abandoned subway/train
station. That is if there are ghosts flipping the lights on every
morning.

And if it's abandoned whos paying this electrical bill?

:razz:

you cant have a pitch black map just so its "ultra real"

Yeah, if it was really abandoned, no one would pay the electric bill...

But it's not really abandoned, is it? Is there water actually flowing
through the pipes? Is the ceiling actually supporting countless tons of
pressure from the ground above? Is it warm or cold? Is this a real
place?

No, of course not! It's a level, so treat it like one - put in lights
so people know where the heck they're going! The whole "dark
abandonment" shtick is going to get pretty old within a few minutes of
playing. And I agree with more light color variation as well. :smile:

I've been told (and agree) that a good lighting arangment is to have a
strong spot light, like the combine light. Along with very soft
wall/ceiling lights to fill in the shadows and then a thrid warm point
light, like a fire or flare.

This will set up good contrast so objects and players dont fade into
the background. Lighting is very very important, it can make a
box room look like a work of art when done well, and can make even the
best brush work look flat and lame when done poorly.

I wasn't saying the lighting is bad. Its good. I was just making a joke...

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No I think they understood that it was a joke and that you like the
lighitng. They're saying the lighting isn't great, and that it
needs work. And I agree with both CJ and Doc. Good Light
variation and placement like Doc described could work wonders for this
map (and any map).

i think you guys could be right about the lighting. i think the valve
jail level might be good reference, after some work i'll post
some pics, see what you think.

thanks again for the feedback!

(if anyone plays this map with 5-6 people i'd love to know how it holds up.

I have 3 words that sum this map up. "Many Dead Ends" :sad:

the connectivity was poor at best. I had no real issues with the lighting in most areas, but noticed a few spots where you could not fire through the hand rails. My son got pinned in one of the spawn points. He said a prop fell on him, pinning him to the wall behind another prop that couldn't be moved enough to allow egress. Doorways and most paths were to narrow for proper DM play. Weapons were plentiful for the size of the map, but poorly placed.

/me rates it in its current form. 5/10

yeah thats a bit high, but I can see something going in this map worth salvaging. assuming the author is capable.

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that's new feedback for the map - i'm glad you put it down, but i'd love some specifics that i can fix.

i dont think there are any dead ends in the map. every room has at
least two exits. the hallways are tight to juxtapose against the wide
gameplay of the rest of the level and provide a risk factor when
getting weapons.

if you can tell me which spawn point was troublesome for your son, i'll fix it.

Just posting on behalf of aidanwriath to say that the final version of
dm_laststop is up. You can get it from the main download link, or just
click here:

http://www.edgefiles.com/files/19982.html

I'm sure aidanwraith will update the map page when he gets back from England.

Nice map.. Still buggy in spots but it plays well.