Texture artist wanted...

I'm working on a new map, and as a former prefabber, that means I need to make map-specific prefabs for it.

The problem is that I have no texture skills and the wads I'm using don't have what I want. This vehicle will be used for Natural Selection, so I can't use brushes for detail. I could hack up the brdly_ textures but it wouldn't look quite right with the NS them, and I can't use the NS textures because they would require me to use more brushes than I want.

I will of course give you credit when I release the map. If I don't finish it, I can release the prefab and give you credit there. I doubt anyone will want to do such boring work, but I'm asking anyway!

Here's some pretty (ugly) pictures:

gimme a crack at it yak....i think i could do a fairly nice job on it, and i have a yen for NS style stuff....wwhat say ye?

Doc Brass... :dodgy:

Makes me think of the AVP APC.

I designed it as a mix between a modern Bradley APC and the one from Aliens. I figured that it would fit in with all the other Aliens references. :smile:

you have two pre's in this rmf....you want them the same?, or is one in case i screw it competely up??... ...or whats yer thinking?

Doc B... :dodgy:

One's got an interior, the other one doesn't. :razz:

You don't have to bother with texturing them both, I can do the other one myself.

well, one, its not a bother, i just wanted to know what was on yer mind....i had some of these textures in the fire, im wondering if this is kinda the feel you had in mind...these are NOT COMPLETE! :wink:

Doc Brass... :dodgy:

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_fnt.jpg[/simg]

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_rgt.jpg[/simg]

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_top.jpg[/simg]

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_back.jpg[/simg]

That looks really nice, at least IMO. Just needs some lights and curvier wheels. :smile:

as a last resort, gimme a yell, i can get you the AvP texture set..

this is NOT the te set i am using, i am making him a set..but this is metalish-looking stuff, and it has an NS feel to it....i just wanted an opinion....ya know: "i need it greener" or "hmm....how about more hatches"...and compartment looking stuff".....understand?....this is just a dry run....i slapped it together in a couple hours just to see what might be....... :wink:

Doc B... :dodgy:

Dr Brasso said:
this is NOT the te set i am using, i am making him a set..but this is metalish-looking stuff, and it has an NS feel to it....i just wanted an opinion....ya know: "i need it greener" or "hmm....how about more hatches"...and compartment looking stuff".....understand?....this is just a dry run....i slapped it together in a couple hours just to see what might be....... :wink:

Doc B... :dodgy:

That looks damn fine already! A nice olive drab would be great, but that gray works as well. I would think that the sides of the front section would have bigger panels to make the APC look more solid and less like it's made up of little parts. There need to be headlights and taillights too. The wheels look great, as does the turret. Actually, it all looks great but the lines need to all connect to make it look less piecemeal.

Orpheus said:
as a last resort, gimme a yell, i can get you the AvP texture set..

You seem to have allota textures from different games. They must be quite dificult to convert to WAD format.

That looks really nice.

Hugh said:
That looks really nice, at least IMO. Just needs some lights and curvier wheels. :smile:

It's a very bad idea to put complex solids in a prefab, as rotating them tends to bork everything.

Well, the real problem with making the wheels curvier is that there are six of them, and changing them from an 8 sided cylinder to a 12 or bigger just adds faces that are unnecessary and changes the prefab from being useful in multiple situations throughout a level to being useful only in a tiny room. I want to use this prefab, not have it sit in a dark corner of a small box.

Rotating is no problem, especially since texture lock during rotation was added. When that feature first came out I took my 400 face truck and pitched it forward like 60 degrees and 30 degrees to the side and had no problems in game. It just took much longer to compile. If you make an error-free prefab it will rotate error-free.

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_back2.jpg[/simg] iupdate time, still not to my satisfaction, but coming along.... :smile:

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_rgt2.jpg[/simg]

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_fnt2.jpg[/simg]

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_top2.jpg[/simg]

Doc Brass... :dodgy:

i recognize at least one of thos docmaster :biggrin:

my only comment, the wheel tread.. make them more tractorish..

nice job so far

yeah, ilike it better this way.... :smile:

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_rgt3.jpg[/simg]

[simg]http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/dr brasso/Yak_APC/APC_top3.jpg[/simg]

I like the tire threads in the last 2 shots, before, they were ugly/

Awesome stuff. Now I just have to get back to working on the map...

PS: The solid treads are better, but don't tint them green :razz: black's where it's at

Orpheus said:
wheel tread.. make them more tractorish.

tractorish doc :smile: , not ammo-canish

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either will suffice, but leave a gap between the two sections, and make them diagonal

do i loook like a friggin farmer to you?... :heee: ...the only tractors i deal with have a friggin 16 foot blade on the front, or a damn bucket scoop on its back....any questions??.... yes, i see what you mean jon, but i dont quite concur.... :smile: ... just because i live in nebraska doesnt mean i know s**t about agriculture.....but i like corn... :heee:

Doc B.... :dodgy:

Dr Brasso said:
yes, i see what you mean jon, but i dont quite concur.... :smile: ...

dont concur? on which? that they now look like ammo-cans, or that they need tread of some sort?

you know, everyone else has done wheels already, why not go for a tracked vehicle, or possibly a 1/2 tracked one??

well, bottom line, it doesnt really matter what i think, i try my damndest to give the "customer" what he wants....visa vi, Yakmaninov has the final say....if he wants tractor wheels, he gets tractor wheels....if he wants "ammo cans", he gets...cans.... and the ammo can thing is what i REALLY dont concur on.... ...quite frankly, it looks a hella lot like an apc, so thats what he gets....although its a futuristic vato-typo rig.... :wink: if it looked like something that could use tracks, well, id do it in a heartbeat....i think thats a damn cool idea, tbh....

Doc Brass... :dodgy:

Dr Brasso said:
if it looked like something that could use tracks, well, id do it in a heartbeat....i think thats a damn cool idea, tbh....

i can envision you and i designing a new line of HL vehicles :smile:

we could have a whole new line of OD green, metalic APC wheels :heee:

Get rid of the gun on the turret, make a cool little machine gun style thing and a little radar thingy...

Myrk- said:
make another version with a cool little machine gun style thing and a little radar thingy...

there myrk, i fixed the text for you, the other was a bit, obstinate :heee:

I have to say, I prefer the gray (hey that rhymes).

The only question I have is, why would a vehicle like this have wheels instead of a tread?

yeah, i liked the grey too cass, i may just do a few of my own...itd be an endeavor i havent had much of a go with in the past.....

ya know orph, i think we should....a whole new line of vehicles...apc's, tanks, etc...old, futuristic, what not...might be fun. we'll talk about that... :smile:

myrk...i believe the reason he hasnt made anything with tiny little stuff on it is twofold,...the r's. and the possibility of invalid solids from rotating etc....

Doc B... :dodgy:

A few things:

About the choice of wheels and turret...
A: If I wanted to recreate the Bradley APC from HL, I would have used the Bradley APC prefab I've already made.
B: Have we never seen the movie Aliens? Wheels are the future.
C: The newest American attack vehicle that acts as a combination of tank and APC and allows for rapid forward deployment and support of infantry is called the Stryker. It has wheels and a variant of it has a turret with a big gun on it.
D: The level is set indoors. Treads are for offroading, not driving on pavement.

About the chosen color:
What I have done so far on the map has a lot of black and gray metal sections. Some variety would be nice. Plus, the APC in Aliens was black/gray metal, and I don't want to completely copy the damn thing.

About the boxiness, lack of details:
A good prefab looks more detailed than it actually is, hence the need for good textures. I need to use this prefab in medium traffic areas and still be able to put detail in the walls so it needs to have a low facecount. Also, this is NS, where lots of tiny details and curves and such will f**k with Skulk movement. I don't want its only use to be sitting in a dark hallway and have it act as a dead-end. Also, I don't want to waste any of the limited amount of entities on this prefab, which would be necessary if I added smaller details (ie: making some of it func_illusionary so people don't get caught on it)

I bet you never thought so much decision-making and foresight goes into making a prefab... :razz:

well, yer the prefab king for a reason Yak... ...your wish is my command sahib... :heee:

Doc B..... :dodgy:

The APC from AVP2 was not a high as that one, and the textures were much darker, but it looks sweet anyway.

well, lights added etc, along with as many little details as my little pea brain could muster....tell me where to send them yak, or i can put em on my pit...yer call...

Doc B... :dodgy:

Put it up at your pit if you don't mind. :smile:

The level is set indoors. Treads are for offroading

I didn't realise they had tank battles indoors :smile:

Well...it would be really cool if they did.

Right?