My invader Zim pic

ok go to http://www.wallyontheweb.com then just for fun/fan art gallery then look for the pic by Tallest yellow (my fan name) it's the one right under the first pic I would like to know what you think of it.

cheers <---got that from wally :cool:

Looks like tracing, I like it though.

(http://www.wallyontheweb.com/img/fanart_tallest.jpg) For the lazy.

Vash said:
Looks like tracing, I like it though.

(http://www.wallyontheweb.com/img/fanart_tallest.jpg) For the lazy.

or if you're really lazy

/me applaudes Orpheus fine training in the art of "lazy"

Vash said:
/me applaudes Orpheus fine training in the art of "lazy"

blushes

twerent, nothin

bows

And I didn't even have to ask.

I promise you Vosh, I did not trace that. I don't know how I could prove it though. Long story short, drawing is my gift I've been drawing since I started school, my classmates are often amazed at my skillz so I guess thats the best I can do. Plus I don't know why anyone would trace something, call it their own and then send it as fan art, I don't see what fun that would be

P.S: I'm not freaking on you, just talking :smile:

Here's an older pic that's been ?orignalised? by me

tittled "Irken boyscouts"

Hey where my post go about falling unconcious and dying from lazyness?!?

You should colour with watercolours or something, pencils are only good if you build up the layers uber slowly and constant so its a perfect fill. Water colours will also help define the characters shapes a bit better.

Wow thats a really good capture of the Zim style, nicely done :smile: You ever done any original art, as opposed to fan art?

No not really reno,

I kind of have a problem with making up characters (?especuly? cartoon) and leting anyone see it. I feel like they might make fun of my ideas :sad: . Which is to bad since I'd like to show people. But there are eceptions like showing then over the net or if I really know the person I'm showing it to. Do others ever feel like that?

Might I remind you of my drawings :biggrin:

People said their shoulders were long, and shouldnt end below their ties.

I said "They are sticks, thats how I draw them."

Dont change your style because someone bitches :biggrin: .

Very motovating Vash nice advise. When I draw the most is when I'm (cirently ?absessed?) with a movie or show, they change regularly. My current one is, you guessed it Invader Zim. I like the chalange of learning how to work with the style and mastering it. But that adds to the problem becouse even if they like the art they might hate the show and dis me about it insted..what ever.

doesnt matter what other people think tbh, I dont like to show anybody else my work either. I wont let my family look at any of my art ive done in the past, im sure its perfectly natural.

There will always be someone who doesnt like what you do, in my case it was my art teacher who wanted to do nothing mroe than tell me im s**t, in those exact words.

You should colour with watercolours or something, pencils are only good if you build up the layers uber slowly and constant so its a perfect fill. Water colours will also help define the characters shapes a bit better.

...not if you use GOOD color pencils. *cough*expensive-prisma-pack-to-the-left*cough*

Watercoloring takes way too much effort to look nice, especially when you don't know how to use them.

However, there are some very nice pens out there too (not really recommended.

But something I do recommend is a light table, and to learn the ability to ink. Inking (I'm talking bottled ink and metal pens, I forget what their name is, and no it isn't a fountain pen) and shadows have dramatic effects on drawings :smile: .

And yes a light table is used for tracing (you can use a window too, but that only works in the day ... or in the OTHER 6 months in Alaska), But you use it because when you draw something it generally isn't the cleanest piece of work in the world. then you trace it over (the areas you want) and ink that, and go from there.

Also, Korn, I know what you mean ... I had a bitch for an art teacher. To her, comic book style art meant nothing, but abstract art (her idea of it being a blue square) was something magical and thoughtfulfilling ... that bitch. lol, anyway.

Thanks all for the support. :smile: Now here's a oppertunity for you. Though I might need some practice, I got a idea :eek: .. no, to do characters for people on the site what I mean is that the first flew people (mybe 5) can send me a PM of what their personality is like (it would also help if you've uploaded your pic to the site also) And I could draw what you might look like as an Irken soldier or invader based on that information. sound cool then PM me remimber only 5 spots are avalible I can send the pic to you through e-mail (please provide in PM) then mybe you can display it in this form or use it as a avitor what ever

i was always the exact opposite, my feelings are, there is no bad art, just many levels of good.

drawing and such is a personal thing, and if someone does their best, it cannot be wrong.

people stress way to much on this "approval" thing :sad:

anywho's thats my take :smile:

Orpheus said:
i was always the exact opposite, my feelings are, there is no bad art, just many levels of good.

Then surely there is no rating artwork? This is why I think art GCSEs and A levels are wrong, how can art be graded?

Myrk- said:

Orpheus said:
i was always the exact opposite, my feelings are, there is no bad art, just many levels of good.

how can art be graded?

as for the world? i don't know or care, but for snarkpit members, i guess we could rate themselves against themselves, to see if each posting is better than the last. it seems a bit unfair to rate us against each other IMO

Well thats why we rate stuff with personal interests in mind. However most people have a common liking of art in the sense of good and bad... so when someone rates something it is likely that alot of people will agree, but not everyone.

true, but IMO anything other than positive could lead to someone not posting at all.

we should do this art thing, like we do maps, and try to remain positive about the crappy stuff too, at least till we see if the person is able to improve or not.

anywho's, i took art in school, i have an appreciation for any picture, even if i don't care for its theme, just cause it was done by hand, makes it special :smile:

Everyone always seems to hate their art teacher, but I must say that without the help of mine I would never have achieved the grade I did at higher. I got a B, which is far more than I should ever have been able to get with my skills. She was always really helpful and supporting, and would give advice that always really would help the overall piece. Without her her help I would almost certainly have got a much lower grade.

oh man. Not mine.

She'd come over and if anything you were drawing wasn't life like, and no this wasn't a life drawing class. she'd draw on it with her goddamned black caligraphy pen of what it "should" be. Not that her art work was any good. I saw some of it, I could pull a better drawn face out of my ass. Sorry, I may be bitter, but it was a completly unfair experience. It was a situation where you got graded because of her respect for you and not because of your work.

I only did one drawing, ever, that she actually liked. It was an appropriation of M.C. Eshers (spelt it wrong, meh) piece, I totally forget the name, but it's the one of the dude holding the reflective ball. I replicated that with Dr. Strange holding the ball and energy beams and all. :smile:
But she had some weird fixation on Esher, so. lol

my art teacher lost/threw away all my work & gave me an E, took a long time for me to bother drawing anything again. I quickly gave up after doing so again though. Still useless.

And that's why you carry a billy club with you where ever you go :smile:

I find it moronic that instructors, in general, will give you a terrible grade on their accord. It doesn't make sense, maybe he didn't like you Korn because you never told him the secrets of CoD lol.

Crono said:
I find it moronic that instructors, in general, will give you a terrible grade on their accord. It doesn't make sense, maybe he didn't like you Korn because you never told him the secrets of CoD lol.

lol, its true he didnt like me & that does actually make a difference in art class tbh. funny how all the lick-arses ended up with A's :/

Oh well, in the end it doesnt matter too much. GCSE's are pretty useless unless you use them to go to college & I failed that miserably aswell.

:sad: yeah .... I wanted to goto the Chicago Art Institute, then I found out how much it was ... so now I'm in computer science lol.

Crono said:
:sad: yeah .... I wanted to goto the Chicago Art Institute, then I found out how much it was ... so now I'm in computer science lol.

/me pets Crono

Its ok :smile:

don't blame all teachers for a few s**theads..

and we have some talent here to chose from, ask around, we might be encouragement enuff to motivate you once more..

for what its worth, you have my support.

don't blame all teachers for a few s**t heads..

I for one never said all art teachers were morons or anything like that (I don't remember if anyone did, though). It was just the art teacher I had durring high school (that bitch). I had an art class the term before last (because as of yesterday the term ended woo) and she was great.

I don't think anyone should stop drawing because of a teacher, I mean, think of it this way, they're a high school art teacher lol.

Anyway, I might be throwin' some stuff up here as well ... maybe a colored homer or ... a full set of Homer smileys :smile:

Vash, I don't roll that way, and don't even think about making some crazy coment on me eating people and putting them in my basement ... lol.

me eating people and putting them in my basement ... lol.

Hah! After 5 long days of AIM questioning, you finally snap and say you eat people and then put them in your basement!

Damn Im good.

But you're the one who kept saying it everytime I said I'd be right back, you'd reply " ... to eat people? "

lol

Vash seems quite interested in eating people.

Is he trying to tell us something?

Bah. I hate to see such negativity about art teachers. It upsets me that some of you guys had such terrible experiences, whereas I always found art a great escape, and the teachers always seemed very supportive. I guess people are people, though, and you can have bitter people in any department of education.

Anyway.. If you like doing it...shake that s**t off, and have the confidence in yourself to keep progressing. If you let one persons bitterness and lack of understanding deflate something you really enjoy, then you have no chance of being good at it. Believe me, there are plenty of pitfalls, gray days, and negative people out there...but if we let that paralyze our dreams and imagination, then we just suck as artists. Have steel balls, and do whatever the hell you want, as long as it makes you happy....and of course, as long as it's not 'eating people'.

Finger said:
Bah. I hate to see such negativity about art teachers. It upsets me that some of you guys had such terrible experiences, whereas I always found art a great escape, and the teachers always seemed very supportive. I guess people are people, though, and you can have bitter people in any department of education.

Anyway.. If you like doing it...shake that s**t off, and have the confidence in yourself to keep progressing. If you let one persons bitterness and lack of understanding deflate something you really enjoy, then you have no chance of being good at it. Believe me, there are plenty of pitfalls, gray days, and negative people out there...but if we let that paralyze our dreams and imagination, then we just suck as artists. Have steel balls, and do whatever the hell you want, as long as it makes you happy....and of course, as long as it's not 'eating people'.

i agree on all counts guys.. who gives a rats ass what one crummy teacher (i use this term loosely) has said.

At the time that it happens you care a lot.
Two reasons why.

1) They're grading you and its frustraiting as hell to never be able to get a decent grade on work you busted your ass on.

2) They're suppose to be a representative from that area of society. And then they give you the impression that you're talentless and worthless, in some aspects. They might as well just slap you in the face, It has the same effect.

A lot of art teachers, at least ones I've had, are opinionated and just plain mean. I don't know why they're so mean, but they are. It's most likely they have a closeminded view of art and don't think that you fall into that bracket area. I had the same problem from bulls**t teachers not permitting me to take classes I needed because they "didn't think I can handle the world load" and it's s**t. Half of teachers you may have in your life time wont even remember your name, so what would they care about you in many degrees?
Again, this is just some experiences I've had with teachers, and I'm not holding them all accountable, I've had some great teachers as well. But those few are ones that stick out in your mind like a splinter. And you'll wonder why the hell you couldn't get them to at least respect you in some way or another.

On that note. Think of this. The guy who created FedEx, came up with that idea for his Theasus in Buisness School ... he got an F so he went out and proved the instructor wrong :smile:

crono, i hate to mention this, but that crummy teacher is a good representation of REAL LIFE, get used to it.

i am not saying everyone is so bad, but life in general sux, from a standpoint of people in a position to be in charge often display the exact same attributes.

if the teacher bothers you that much, just wait till you have an employer with the same qualities, and you cannot do a damned thing about it.

anywho's, i think, you guys should toughen up, or we will be reading about some other candyass who committed suicide again, over life's harsh realities. :rolleyes:

life is what YOU make of it, NOT what others do to you..

I was talking about an art teacher I had, mostly....so.

Other things I've had, such as courses in my area, I've had no problems. And my opinions in the matter don't reflect my attitude towards them. Such as I wouldn't sit there at work and whine about my boss, for example. I mean come on, man. But what I was saying that they're a reprensentation of the area of society, meaning everyone who is in professional or amatuer art, or something like that, I know for a fact that most people in the art world (school are not the 'art world') aren't bastards. They respect you if you're good what you do. The individual I'm speaking of didn't, it was a completly inadiquate situation, and if the same thing was happening in a work situation, I, or whoever, would be able to go speak to that boss about it. If they fired you that is grounds for investigation, since they need justified rights, if you've been there for more then a year of course or unless you signed some funky contract. I mean these are just buisness ethics rules of sorts. You don't have to put up with a punk ass for a boss if they're treating you unfairly. I know you're probably going "not in the REAL world", but the fact remains that most corperations are trying to create equal opertunities and equality in the work place, so if you're not even being respected with what you do it has grounds for a change. But anyway.

tightens bolts on derailed thread get back to work! lol.

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life is what YOU make of it, NOT what others do to you..

.... believe me, I'm well aware of that :smile: ... and I'm working on it lol.

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O noes!!!111

you little bastard

Art teachers are tricky mo fos... My art tutor at uni for architecture degree is damn good though. He doesn't fiddle with your ideas like most art teachers, or tell you what to do. He sort of asks questions which make you question your art into you deciding another way or your own additions. Very good guy at art teaching :razz:

Updated (Im done spamming Half-Dudes thread now).

...God, man... sigh looks like I'll be breaking in my tablet tonight .... :biggrin:

Myrk- said:
Art teachers are tricky mo fos...

We had a funny little character in school for teaching us art. He'd basically give you an A if you used enough Pink and Green in your paintings

Gimp.

"...the words M.C Escher trigger a hyperactive response..." spams thread

Crono said:
I only did one drawing, ever, that she actually liked. It was an appropriation of M.C. Eshers (spelt it wrong, meh) piece, I totally forget the name, but it's the one of the dude holding the reflective ball. I replicated that with Dr. Strange holding the ball and energy beams and all. :smile:
But she had some weird fixation on Esher, so. lol

heres what hes talking bout:http://www.cs.unc.edu/~davemc/Pic/Escher/Hand%20with%20Reflecting%20Sphere.jpg

Respect! Dude i love Escher's works and dats me fave piece.

if you can get someone who doesnt like you to like a variation of an M.C. Escher's youve got skill.

even more off topic: has anyone had a serious attempt at making a map something like this:



or this



( http://www.cs.unc.edu/~davemc/Pic/Escher/After/ )

yea i know off topic but a another Escher fan surfacing here... ponders changing avatar to an Escher

www.mcescher.com

Some of Echer's pictures are really strange. We've got the one with everyone walking up stairs at different angles (not the one in your post) painted on the wall at school. And guess where it is- halfway up the stairs to the top floor.

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grr images dont work

just dont look at it while youre going down the stairs...splat! :biggrin:

strange? yeah theres one where lizards crawl from a 2d drawing on paper, off the paper as real lizards, across some nerby books and back into the paper...that one just trips me out

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