Angerrrr...

Well for starters I don't really like Steam, but now it's crossed the line. When I tried reinstalling Steam on my system I attempted to log in with my account to no avail, I tried all passwords that I usually use and nothing worked. So I tried the password recovery and it says "mailed, enter this BS Q&A here." So I wait...and no email, I tried three seperate times and nothing. Maybe I was hacked I say, so I make a new account and search for a user by my email, it pops up just fine. So why in the hell is it not sending me my password recovery? I can't make the new account work since it doesn't like 2 accounts with one key. And it isn't accepting my OP4 key at all. It shouldn't have to be this difficult. Pardon me while I chuck something out the window...

IMO, Steam can suck my left nut.

Steam looked to be down just a few minutes ago.

First off. Comment on what steam can do to you in an immoral fasion isn't helping anyone.

Secondly, steam is back up at the moment ...

Gorb, what was the error message it gave? (it would help if you posted it, I'd imagine.)

Also, their email service, as hard as it is to hear this, takes a LONG time. Like, wait a day or two. The reason why is that, they've undershot the use of Steam, I think. More people then they had planned are using everything all at once, and their servers aren't able to handle the load, now I don't know why on earth their Steam servers are the same as their web and email servers, but they seem to be. Such as, if Steam is down, so are the email and site servers.

Crono said:
First off. Comment on what steam can do to you in an immoral fasion isn't helping anyone.

Well, it may not have helped the problem at hand, but it sure as hell made me feel better

Wild Card said:
IMO, Steam can suck my left nut.

And my right.

They should have made it an option, not mandatory. As well, from now on, any updates I would like, I cant get, because I play CS with bots on my comp until I get the internet at the end of the year. I dont mind bots, Im using a special variant of the PODbot and the SWAT bot and they are fairly realistic. Anyway, I dont like the move to steam. Ever since, I've heard more bad then good. In fact, I have yet to hear any good come from it.

No, this was a few days ago, and I've yet to receive anything. There is no error message that's the whole point. If there was I'd be able to do something about it. It just says that the email has been sent but it actually hasn't. It had nothing to do with it being down. It just acted like everything was swell, but didn't help me.

Wait a few more years, it'll come.

They should have made it an option, not mandatory. As well, from now on, any updates I would like, I can't get, because I play CS with bots on my comp until I get the internet at the end of the year. I don't mind bots, I'm using a special variant of the PODbot and the SWAT bot and they are fairly realistic. Anyway, I dont like the move to steam. Ever since, I've heard more bad then good. In fact, I have yet to hear any good come from it.

There's plenty, Think about it, there is only a small fraction of the HL community whining about steam overall. Everyone else is too busy playing games. Like all these problems other people have had, I've never experienced any of them, Things have gone wrong with steam, however my solution isn't re-installing it. That's a horrible solution by the way.

But then again no one is there to monitor your use of steam to tell you how to fix it.

Secondly, I think you should be forced to switch, I doubt that Valve still wants money they rightfully deserve for these products (Don't get your panties in a bunch) and if you use WON all they get is the money from the copy you bought, if you even bought it.
If they have more satisfied users using a product they made they get more development money. (To semi-simplify it.)

But it's up to you; however, I doubt you've ever used a good working version of steam. Believe me, its great. Obviously, if you don't like steam because you can't afford, or don't want, a faster connection that is a different argument. In which you wouldn't really be arguing that steam sucks, rather that it's unfair. Because that would be saying Deep Blue sucks, because you don't own it, when in all actuality it suck that you CAN'T own it. Does that make sense?

God, I'm just on a rambling spree today.

Oh, also, if you were wondering, there are plently of Bots for Steam based stuff as well. :smile:

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No, this was a few days ago, and I've yet to receive anything. There is no error message that's the whole point. If there was I'd be able to do something about it. It just says that the email has been sent but it actually hasn't. It had nothing to do with it being down. It just acted like everything was swell, but didn't help me.

I meant when you tried to log in.

The whole point is I can't...it just doesn't see the password as correct.

I have a fast connection, and I still prefer WON. Why do you think Steam got installed in the first place?

Well, before Steam, I only played Counter-Strike. With the best (IMO) 1.5 version. And if I wanted to find a specific server, I would go to www.gametiger.com and look it up. Once I found it, I would go in console and connect to it. Either that or I would search the servers and just pick one inside CS. Either way, things worked fine for me. Never had any problems.

Why fix something if it aint br0ked?

With Steam, you cant use any new updates unless you have internet and a good connection (I have DSL so that part isnt a problem) But MY computer isnt on the internet. And I have just as much fun playing against bots. At least they dont cheat. But now with Steam, if ever there is a new update (a better one than 1.6 anyways) I cant get it.

As for this whole money thing I am slightly confused. There is no money involved in CS since you can download it for free on the internet. (unless you were on of those suckered into buying the retail version which you had to update anyways to play online)

Valve made money 6 years ago with Half-Life, Opposing Force, and Team Fortress. Again a few years ago with Blue Shift and the HD pack. Why would they want to make money for a 6 year old game that is played on the internet? IMO, if I understand correctly, they are looking for money in the wrong place.

But thats just me.

I might be wrong, and probably am.

But I still hold my opinion..

Steam can suck the left one!

Did you try the password recovery crap? where it asks you a question, if you answer correctly you can change you password without knowing your old one.

Other then that, I don't know what to tell you, man. I wish I did.

Read my very first post. That IS the problem. It says the password has been mailed but my inbox stays empty. I did it once before (about a month or so ago.) but now it doesn't work.

Well, before Steam, I only played Counter-Strike. With the best (IMO) 1.5 version. And if I wanted to find a specific server, I would go to www.gametiger.com and look it up. Once I found it, I would go in console and connect to it. Either that or I would search the servers and just pick one inside CS. Either way, things worked fine for me. Never had any problems.

Why fix something if it aint br0ked?

With Steam, you cant use any new updates unless you have internet and a good connection (I have DSL so that part isnt a problem) But MY computer isnt on the internet. And I have just as much fun playing against bots. At least they dont cheat. But now with Steam, if ever there is a new update (a better one than 1.6 anyways) I cant get it.

As for this whole money thing I am slightly confused. There is no money involved in CS since you can download it for free on the internet. (unless you were on of those suckered into buying the retail version which you had to update anyways to play online)

Valve made money 6 years ago with Half-Life, Opposing Force, and Team Fortress. Again a few years ago with Blue Shift and the HD pack. Why would they want to make money for a 6 year old game that is played on the internet? IMO, if I understand correctly, they are looking for money in the wrong place.

But thats just me.

I might be wrong, and probably am.

But I still hold my opinion..

Steam can suck the left one!

Um, why are you worried about the most recent updates if you're not online? Its just to fix compatability and make the game smoother. If you're playing with bots, okay, fine, I don't really care.

By the way, they still make A LOT of money off of Half-Life, and the HL Platinum Pack stuff.

It works like a TV station, how do you think they get their money? Advertisements. Steam is the same sort of entertainment, granted I doubt they'd start full blown commercials or anything, but they do get more money for development with the more people that are using their product.

Also, just to point out, in steam, you can find any server you want. But obviously you can't play on you're favorite because it's on the WON network. Also, why change a good thing? They had no control over it, that's why. They wouldn't be able to do half of the things they're planning on the WON network, not to mention they would have to pay them more money the more used they would get for the server loads. I don't have a problem if you don't like steam for a specific reason (and there's a few), but like I said, it doesn't make sense to say something sucks if you're just un able to use it, because you honestly don't know.

Read my very first post. That IS the problem. It says the password has been mailed but my inbox stays empty. I did it once before (about a month or so ago.) but now it doesn't work.

I just went through the process that I described and it didn't email anything, it asked me to change my password, and then it went back to log in screen and asked me to log in with the new password .... I'm not sure what's going on with yours, but I'll help as much as I can.

well some updates introduce new things, like 1.6 with the riot shield. Anyways, as long as I can still get bot updates and RU updates, Im happy. Until I get internet and have to get steam anyways. As for Steam, I dont really find anything much wrong with it, it offers the same things I could get without it, but now you need it if you want to get future game updates.

Crono said:

Read my very first post. That IS the problem. It says the password has been mailed but my inbox stays empty. I did it once before (about a month or so ago.) but now it doesn't work.

I just went through the process that I described and it didn't email anything, it asked me to change my password, and then it went back to log in screen and asked me to log in with the new password .... I'm not sure what's going on with yours, but I'll help as much as I can.

That part works just fine, I just don't get the email that it says it sent that has the code to give my new password. Without it I can't change my password or log in.

I have never had a problem with steam. Perfectly good piece of software if you ask me - I like the way you can easily add players in your game to your freinds list. I'm not overly thirlled about it downloading cs:cz for me, but it didn't cost me anything and doesn't present any kind of problem.

That part works just fine, I just don't get the email that it says it sent that has the code to give my new password. Without it I can't change my password or log in.

That's really odd, man. Maybe there was an update or something on this front. Because, earlier I changed my password by saying I forgot it and such and no emailing was even involved.

Also, same here Jeff, I've never had any problems like this, however I don't think formatting my HD or using Window's defrag is a good idea either. lol (Not accusing anyone else here of those crimes though.)

This has me riddled, seriously, and I wont leave it at "well mine works fine" because that doesn't help your situation. hmmm ... let me ponder this whine I play Raven Shield :biggrin:

Think about it though, since I can't log in, there would be no way it would let me change it or else anyone could change anyone's passwords. I'll try it again soon, but I'm not really thrilled with having a couple of gigs of new stuff on my computer anyway. Even though Steam downloads stuff at like 1.5MBps :razz:

All experience I've had with Steam (not very much) is bad experience. Steam was a good idea that turned out to work very bad. Too bad. Hopefully they'll fix it so people can actually use Steam and enjoy it.

Steam is a blessing. Apart from this random crash when you close crap which it has going on it's never really given me any issues and this is hardly a fatal, omg my PC is broken issue. It takes a second to fix.

It's just so much nicer to use and you no longer get that crappy losing sound bug.

The thing is that for me WON loads way, way faster. Servers were easier to find and join. And when I used HLSW the sound bug didn't occur. Now I have to sort through the Steam servers too...there are so many empty ones these days.

What about using All Seeing Eye?

Think about it though, since I can't log in, there would be no way it would let me change it or else anyone could change anyone's passwords. I'll try it again soon, but I'm not really thrilled with having a couple of gigs of new stuff on my computer anyway. Even though Steam downloads stuff at like 1.5MBps :razz:

What it's suppose to do is at the login screen, as in you type in your user name and password here, there is a "forgot password" option next to the password text box. If you click it, it asks you a question, if you get the question correctly (whatever you told it to be when you made the account) then it will let you create a new password without knowing the old one. A lot of internet passwords are set up this way.
I'm not sure if you're confusing what I'm talking about with another feature or not.

I looked for like a half hour for what you're talking about and I couldn't find it. The thing I'm talking about is before you log in, it's when you run steam (if you logged out and exited the last time you shut steam down) and it asks for you password ... I don't know if there's anything more that I can do besides clarifying what I've said...I'm sorry. I'd say take a look around some of the steam forums, unless you're suicidal lol.

1) How could I answer a question I don't receive? :rolleyes:

2) I figured it out...I had signed up ages ago and for some reason this time it needed me to use my email account as the main account (they changed it) I looked it up and figured it out.

Cassius said:

Wild Card said:
IMO, Steam can suck my left nut.

And my right.

Think im gonna donate some nutz for steam . And a fat, long "sausage".

1) How could I answer a question I don't receive? :rolleyes:

Don't roll your eyes at me lol.
I don't know why you didn't have the same system set up as ... everyone else.

2) I figured it out...I had signed up ages ago and for some reason this time it needed me to use my email account as the main account (they changed it) I looked it up and figured it out.

... good.

I'm pretty sure that is on the FAQ of the steam website, which it probably tells you to go to from within steam when you get the error... But of course we must still say that it is all steam's fault and that steam sucks and that it never works properly... ?