take a moment to visit PHL

I'm on freeserve anytime, and it's s**t :smile: I dont think it makes a difference from ISP to ISP anymore - theres only a few here and there that are remotely good, and when they are revealed the new customers swamp and choke the service.

If the Government/and or BT put their backs into it and brought broadband to everybody we wouldnt really have this problem. Tight f*cks.

gimpinthesink said:
Gwil are you on NTL if so thats the problem for the realybad pings cos I was on that and I had a ping average of around 1000-1500 and my mate who also had a 56k was on freeserve and he had a ping average of around 600

ntlworld = best isp for 56k online gaming imo. I get a ping of 130'ish in hl.

Are you all huffing glue? www.geek.com has an excellent article pretaining to this! It's TRUE! and personally I don't think it will be long after the game is released that someone will have a patch to connect you to a free gaming network. Kind of like what Kevin "Script Kiddie" Rose demonstrated on TSS for X-Box.

Gwil, it costs them about 200,000 quid to install ADSL equipment in an exchange, so they really need to make money out of it or they'd very quickly go bankrupt... of course, there are schemes to get broadband in rural areas- you can either register your interest via the BT website (yes it is a good idea!), or look into satellite as I hear the government was maybe thinking about helping people out with that soon...

[i]Hmm, this could also mean they're secretly working on Half-Life the MMORPG![/i]

LMAO thats funny shiet, well i learned my lesson with sims online...NOOOO dont worry, i didnt pay to play that one, but it made me realize how F*CKED UP pay for play is.

yah i can understand that servers need upkeeping and content designers/updaters need paychecks, but to pay the same price as a traditional none PFP game only to turn around and be forced to pay a monthly fee is just rediculious...maybe if these PFP games were free for DL then it might be a different story.

dont forget guys... its only a rumor HOPEFULLY

I think this is well dead, but I thought I'd just say lep is VERY right about registering interest on the BT website, as at long last North Berwick (my hometown of about 2000 people) has gathered up enough interest (400 I think the requirement is) so they are installing it soon. Pity I've just buggered off to uni really isn't it - soon I'll be making trips home just for some low pinging online gaming :biggrin:

I heard satellite was really bad for online gaming however, but I might have been fed lies. Something to do with it being large data packets but slow transfer, meaning large files are still downloaded quick as you get it all in big sections, but for gaming it doesn't update often enough. Could be bullshit, but with my limited knowledge of how the net works, it sounded reasonable.

I heard satellite was really bad for online gaming however, but I might have been fed lies. Something to do with it being large data packets but slow transfer, meaning large files are still downloaded quick as you get it all in big sections, but for gaming it doesn't update often enough.

Well, there's also the matter of how far away the satellite network is... There's the little matter of the time it takes for the signal to get to the satellite and back. Sure the raw transfer is decent, but by the time it initializes, you're dead three times over. :smile:

Leperous said:
Gwil, it costs them about 200,000 quid to install ADSL equipment in an exchange, so they really need to make money out of it or they'd very quickly go bankrupt... of course, there are schemes to get broadband in rural areas- you can either register your interest via the BT website (yes it is a good idea!), or look into satellite as I hear the government was maybe thinking about helping people out with that soon...

That's just it though, I did that YEARS ago. I think there may finally be progress, as BT went to the trouble of informing people that they can give us broadband but they need people interested in it. Before it was a case of "family PC with a hotmail account for mum, dad and 2 kids. occasionally used for M$ office documents. default ISP from PC world" that proliferated our village, so broadband was too long a word to read, let alone understand.

 

BTW, I heard that the problem with sattelite is that it will download at standard DSL speed, but you can't send signals back - as a result, you still need to use your 56k for uploads, everything down to page requests (this is quite obvious when you think about it - do you want a 100m wide sattelite dish in every back garden?). Sky Digital had the same problem, they also just use 56k for their "online and interactive TV". I think that the non-56k interactive TV is, in some way, another channel on the sattelite which can be filtered in just like the others, if you catch my meaning.