cant get water working properly

hi guys, got a problem that is naggin me to death....

im trying to make a sewer with water in the tunnel but im havin trouble getting the water to work.... ive included screenies to hopefully help



ok so i made a room and hollowed it out, now i watched a water tutorial and it said make a brush with nodraw texture which i have done and also make sure the brush touches each wall, i then cover the visible faces with the water texture and add a light and cubemap for good measure, now basicly above is what i get, any brush face with the no draw texture makes the wall it touches see through...

now if i make the water brush not touch the sides of the sewer wall obviously i get gaps which looks dumb....

ive included a pic of hammer at the point of which im editing to see if you can notice summin im doing wrong

Shame on you for that second picture! Not only is the filesize
about 5 times larger than it needs to be, but you broke the message
board by unnecessarily showing your second monitor.

The best I can tell you is to play around with those water textures,
stick a cubemap with properties telling it to view that brush
specifically, and try making it a world brush/making it a water entity.

just to update even if i texture all sides of the water block with the water texture looking down into the water it makes the walls see through like in the piccy above, but if i duck under the water it seems to work fine and it all looks lovley

so why is it makin the adjacent walls see through?

what is wrong with everybody being so mean? joe-bob cough

So mean?

I think you're a little sensitive. He killed the boards, and I
gave a light-hearted reply suggesting that he correct his screenshot.

i corrected my screeny

No, keep all sides except the surface covered in NODRAW. Change your water texture if you're still having problems, and do what's been suggested (put in a cubemap, and try a water_lod_control)

ok ive tried different water textures and adding a water lod entitie but still no joy, under water looks fine but above water all the walls the water touches are see through...

damn this is bugging me

Make sure you only have the water texture on top - sides and bottom are nodraw

Make sure you dont have a leak in your map! I had a similar problem when my map was leaking.

Remember to use "buildcubemaps" in the console once you have loaded your map, it might have so effect.

hey is that reno from hlccl?

hey m8y its enigma from old kia :smile:

ok im guessing its a memory leak because if i use a 3d skybox that is scalled down using a world camera entity then i get the problem, but if i just draw a big hollow box round my map using the skybox texture then i works fine....

so im guessing a memory leak somewhere?

any easyway og finindg out where the leaks are?

ok im guessing its a memory leak because if i use a 3d skybox
that is scalled down using a world camera entity then i get the
problem, but if i just draw a big hollow box round my map using the
skybox texture then i works fine....

so im guessing a memory leak somewhere?

any easyway og finindg out where the leaks are?

not a memory leak ...

look through your compile log - in the VIS section there might be a
****LEAKED**** or something, and itll tell you what entity leaked...
check the tutorials section i think theres one one leaks.

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\sourcesdk\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike" -fast "C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Dec 15 2004)
fastvis = true
2 threads
reading c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp
reading c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.prt
704 portalclusters
2354 numportals
BasePortalVis: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2)
Optimized: 10953 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 367329
Average clusters visible: 521
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 674
visdatasize:122926 compressed from 123904
writing c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp
2 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp" "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp"

thats what i get in if i just run the vis section on fast.... that give any hint?

I've never run VIS on fast, what does it look like if you set it to normal?

just doing it now, but since i put the large skybox around my map it takes ages even though i have deleted the box and gone back to the scaled down 3d sky box

I had this too today...

And I made a REALLY stupid mistake :/

My skybox was intersecting the floor of my tunnels... You where
actually walking on the skybox instead of the floor of the tunnel...
You might check that out too :wink:

Heya mate, it is indeed the same Reno. Welcome to the snarkpit :smile:

ok vis run on normal gives me this

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\sourcesdk\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Dec 15 2004)
2 threads
reading c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp
reading c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.prt
704 portalclusters
2354 numportals
BasePortalVis: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2)
PortalFlow: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (2244)
Optimized: 2937 visible clusters (0.00%)
Total clusters visible: 218665
Average clusters visible: 310
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 577
visdatasize:115456 compressed from 123904
writing c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp
37 minutes, 26 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp" "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp"

Running bsp on normal gives me this

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\sourcesdk\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Dec 15 2004)
2 threads
materialPath: c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\materials
Loading C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.vmf
"materials/vgui\logos\4u.vtf": cached version doesn't exist
Detected multiplayer map, building linux dedicated server data
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
**** leaked ****
Entity light (-225.00 -1806.00 -416.00) leaked!

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (1536.0, 3072.0, -1083.5)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (2048.0, 3584.0, -1083.5)
Leaf 0 contents:
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (1536.0, 4096.0, -1083.5)
Leaf 0 contents:
Leaf 1 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (0.0, 3237.0, -1293.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (0.0, 3237.0, -441.5)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (0.0, 3237.0, -232.0)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (0.0, 3749.0, -1083.5)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

FindPortalSide: Couldn't find a good match for which brush to assign to a portal near (512.0, 3072.0, -1083.5)
Leaf 0 contents: CONTENTS_SOLID
Leaf 1 contents:
viscontents (node 0 contents ^ node 1 contents): CONTENTS_SOLID
This means that none of the brushes in leaf 0 or 1 that touches the portal has CONTENTS_SOLID
Check for a huge brush enclosing the coordinates above that has contents CONTENTS_SOLID
Candidate brush IDs:

*** Suppressing further FindPortalSide errors.... ***
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox sky_airexchange01...
Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (123752 bytes)
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (239024 bytes)
Static prop models/props_vehicles/truck001a.mdl outside the map (20.00, 740.20, -508.00)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Writing C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp
7 seconds elapsed
Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 48
Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 8

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Games\Steam\SteamApps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp" "c:\games\steam\steamapps\enigma@enigma.gametribe.net\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\de_junkyard_testing.bsp"

anyone decifer that and tell me what could be wrong

ok its defintley to do with the 3d skybox

if i just enclose the whole map in a big hollow skybox texrure brush it all works fine

if i try and use a 3d sky box with a sky_camera entity the problems come back... but performance with the 3d skybox is better

ok its defintley to do with the 3d skybox

if i just enclose the whole map in a big hollow skybox texrure brush it all works fine

if i try and use a 3d sky box with a sky_camera entity the problems come back... but performance with the 3d skybox is better

look at your compile log...

ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

**** leaked ****

Entity light (-225.00 -1806.00 -416.00) leaked!

go check that light.. it's either outside, or there's a hole close to it