ns_jolt

hey guys im new here but anyway click on ns_jolt or my profile to get more info..but yeh the map wont be done for awhile so well grab some popcorn and chill.. and if u start flamin me..this is what happend to the last flamer i got flamed from.. hehe..ttyl

You've done nothing to get flamed, but I wouldn't try inciting any - Lep rigged those grenades :razz:

Anyway, its fairly obvious from the map you are quite new to mapping, and if so then you are making a good start. However NS is a difficult mod to map for, and the vast majority of maps are made by very experienced mappers. You find yourself in large boots to fill :smile: No doubt you will get all the feedback and help you need around these parts though. Welcome to the snarkpit.

Welcome :smile:

Not much to say on your map screens, since it's not far along in development yet. Looks a bit empty, but then it would be at this stage.

I advise that the anticipation of conflict is often productive of its object! There is much to be said for a psychological - rather than a rationalist - account of the development of arguments :biggrin: In other words, people looking for a fight tend to find one :razz:

actully im not new to mapping..been mapping for 4 years now and the maker of de_storm showed me how..hes my bros friend..anyway im just slow on the ideas..dun know what to add..and the ns forum users have been helping me a bit..anyway nice to meet ya..

Have to agree with ReN, ns is quite a task to map for. I personally would suggest making simpler maps with creative ideas before tackling such a thing.

I hope I didn't insult you at all before, but I'll be honest, those screenshots do not suggest to me that they were made by an experienced mapper. You say you have been into level design for 4 years? I guess that it hasn't been an intensive 4 years, but more of an on-off thing?

Well regardless of how long you have been at it, you need to work on things such as more complex architecture, texture alignment, lighting, detailing, and so on. Thankfully, this is the place to be to make such improvements :smile: Try reading through my "Spicing up your architecture" tutorial and its follow ups (if they ever get posted), they should help you out.

Try looking at other NS maps, to be specific Eclipse is a good one for curved corners & nothing is a good one for lighting. Get inspiration from them, it's how I get my ideas.

its MAJOR work in progress...meaning 95% chance that thing will be changed and added on 2..and im trying to think of thing to add to the hall right now :smile:

starting off referring to past confrontations is not my idea of quality interaction, with that said, at least now its over with and you can proceed.

looking at the screenshots doesn't tell me n00b, but it also doesn't sing of a 4 year vet either.

you have a nice beginning, and thats still not a bad place to be, my advice is to load some maps from NS and see what works and what doesn't.

give us a bit more to base an opinion on and we'll see.

good luck

...new hall pic..and one of the lights down the hall a bit has fast strobe on.. :smile: ..and if u dint notice i added a more none boxy ceiling.

NS is difficult to map for, but when a map is completed it tends to have to be high quality to be played, unlike CS and DM where there are servers willing to put up just about anything. You'll get help here though, these are about the most tolerant mapping forums I have found anywhere. A lot of other forums will flame newer or less creative mappers for their work and the flamers fail to remember their early works weren't all that great.

Do you have a WC overview shot of your map, if you've got a great layout with good connectivity then, imho, adding detail and life to the map is the fun part. A little variety in texturing is needed in your map, but remember not to add textures that clash and give a gaudy cartoonish look. As for your halls perhaps some wall panels with electronics and pipes behind them, perhaps various ceiling fixtures, wiring, and alien gunk would work.

The only thing i can really say to you from the beginning of this map is REALISM. Hell i know this NS and there is nothing realistic about the mod, but put in there what you would think the place would really look like. Sketch it out on paper. Then add detail to drawling.

Try to push the engine but be smart about it. Dont have long lasting hallways with enormous R_speeds. I failed that with my map DM_Ominous. R_speeds and game play hurt it alot, but it was my best detail/ realism map.

The reason others have succeded where i failed was gameplay. So that should also be an important factor while designing this map. You will also not get away by havin simple architecture and great gameplay. Just some key things to think of while makin this map. Good luck and I hope i this helped. Im looking forward to seeing more shots

OH! Almost forgot, lighting... Its very important to have a dark scary feeling for this map. Yours looks a bit to bright but again this is just the beginning of your map.

Entities are your best friend while makin an NS map.

thx..u guys are rly helping me out :smile: ..anyway new pics in my profile..hall and gen is updated.

New Pics...check my profile and then ns_jolt..thx

Whoa, those are some mad pipes :smile: While I reckon they could use some work, you are certainly going the right way about improving the map. Watch your texture alignment though, nothing breaks the suspension of belief in a level more than seeing a wrongly aligned texture.

The floors are too flat, add higher and lower levels connected with steps and ramps. :smile: