Two weapons

Two weapons

Re: Two weapons Posted by Guessmyname on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 12:57pm
Guessmyname
342 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 12:57pm
342 posts 173 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 6th 2004
The Rifle's still WIP

The ever-so-slightly-inspired-by-starship-troopers sci-fi rifle

http://boards.phwcomics.com/showthread.php?t=8655

Flamethrower

http://boards.phwcomics.com/showthread.php?t=8607
www.filefence.com. Free vmf hosting!
Re: Two weapons Posted by Crono on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 1:07pm
Crono
6628 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 1:07pm
Crono
super admin
6628 posts 700 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 19th 2003 Location: Oregon, USA
Your flame thrower doesn't make sense. It wouldn't fire very far with that wide or short of a nozzle. Actually, it'd probably put the pilot flame out. It needs to be long and thin to build up pressure, thus, speed, thus distance to launch the fire carrying fuel far enough to do any realistic damage or to be of any use.

Think about squirt guns that don't have motors. They either need endless pumping to build pressure with an air pump, or, they have long barrels with less pumping.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Two weapons Posted by Guessmyname on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 1:26pm
Guessmyname
342 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 1:26pm
342 posts 173 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 6th 2004
Meh, I'm no weapon expert.

How's this?

User posted image
www.filefence.com. Free vmf hosting!
Re: Two weapons Posted by Windows 98 on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 1:58pm
Windows 98
757 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 1:58pm
757 posts 86 snarkmarks Registered: Apr 25th 2005 Occupation: Student Location: USA
that reminds me of a TMP :smile: . Also, where does the gas go?
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8521/windows981dk.jpg

Nickelplate is my dad
Re: Two weapons Posted by Crono on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 2:50pm
Crono
6628 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 2:50pm
Crono
super admin
6628 posts 700 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 19th 2003 Location: Oregon, USA
Neither am I, I'm just telling you how the physics part works. It may be long enough, the only way to check it to build it or calculate it. But it's still way too wide. Realistically, it'd have to be about half that width OR have a rather small opening nozzle at the very end.

I could explain why, I guess.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Two weapons Posted by Guessmyname on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 2:53pm
Guessmyname
342 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 2:53pm
342 posts 173 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 6th 2004
I'll make the nozzle smaller.

And the gas goes in the little cannister by the trigger Win98

EDIT:
User posted image
www.filefence.com. Free vmf hosting!
Re: Two weapons Posted by Myrk- on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 2:54pm
Myrk-
2299 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 2:54pm
Myrk-
member
2299 posts 604 snarkmarks Registered: Feb 12th 2002 Occupation: CAD & Graphics Technician Location: Plymouth, UK
Before designing a weapon, think how it works. A flamethrower needs alot of gas (a backpack of gas say), a thin, long nozzle to build up pressure as Crono said, and then a pilot light. The gas is a liquid- it gets squirted out like a water pistol and catches fire from the pilot light. The inflamed gas then flies throught the air. Theres also the gas forms which shoot out gas, but its more of a flame than fire, if you get what I mean.

Now go back and redesign. Take the criticism- don't neglect it.
-[Better to be Honest than Kind]-
Re: Two weapons Posted by Guessmyname on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 2:59pm
Guessmyname
342 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 2:59pm
342 posts 173 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 6th 2004
Yeah, I'll redesign it.

Though I may turn what I have into a silenced smg type thing
www.filefence.com. Free vmf hosting!
Re: Two weapons Posted by Myrk- on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 3:02pm
Myrk-
2299 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 3:02pm
Myrk-
member
2299 posts 604 snarkmarks Registered: Feb 12th 2002 Occupation: CAD & Graphics Technician Location: Plymouth, UK
Would work better as an SMG. :razz:
-[Better to be Honest than Kind]-
Re: Two weapons Posted by French Toast on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 7:30pm
French Toast
3043 posts
Posted 2005-07-11 7:30pm
3043 posts 304 snarkmarks Registered: Jan 16th 2005 Occupation: Kicking Ass Location: Canada
What did you make those in? Which program I mean :smile:
Re: Two weapons Posted by rival on Wed Jul 13th 2005 at 7:36am
rival
512 posts
Posted 2005-07-13 7:36am
rival
member
512 posts 141 snarkmarks Registered: Apr 7th 2005 Occupation: being a pain in the ass Location: inverness
french toast im assuming its xsi but i could be wrong...

wait i was reading through the forums that guessmyname was posting in and he mentioned wings3d.
Re: Two weapons Posted by French Toast on Sun Jul 17th 2005 at 6:03pm
French Toast
3043 posts
Posted 2005-07-17 6:03pm
3043 posts 304 snarkmarks Registered: Jan 16th 2005 Occupation: Kicking Ass Location: Canada
I don't think it was XSI, because then he'd have XSI DEMO everywhere on
the pic unless he bought the full version. Guessmyname, can you
tell me what you used? I'm still trying to find a program.
I'm just not that motivated...
Re: Two weapons Posted by Junkyard God on Thu Aug 11th 2005 at 10:49pm
Junkyard God
654 posts
Posted 2005-08-11 10:49pm
654 posts 81 snarkmarks Registered: Oct 27th 2004 Occupation: Stoner/mucisian/level design Location: The Nether Regions
i'm a fan of gas canisters on backs that you can shoot so they explode, BUT if you make it a one handed flamethrower ( maybe duals! ) it would realy be cool, it realy depends on the skin if it looks like a flame thrower or smg, so make sure you get that themed correctly :smile:
Hell, is an half-filled auditorium
Re: Two weapons Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Aug 15th 2005 at 5:59am
Tracer Bullet
2271 posts
Posted 2005-08-15 5:59am
2271 posts 445 snarkmarks Registered: May 22nd 2003 Occupation: Graduate Student (Ph.D) Location: Seattle WA, USA
Just a little note... The length of the barrel has nothing to do with the velocity of the stream. In fact, the longer the tube you squeeze the fuel through, the more resisrance there is, and the shorter the distance it will fire. The key issue is apature size and pressure. It takes far less energy to apply a large pressure to a smaller apature, which is why squirt guns and flame throwers are designed the way they are. The only reason for the long tube is to keep that flame away from the operator, and possibly to reduce flow turbulence which might produce an inconsistant stream. Then again, who cares? you aren't trying to design a real flame thrower.

Anyway, I second those opinions already expressed. you need to visualize how these weapons might actualy function in real life, and design from there so that they will be believeable.

It is pretty decent modeling though. :smile:
Some people are like slinkys...

They aren?t really good for anything, but you can't help but laugh when one tumbles down the stairs.
Re: Two weapons Posted by Guessmyname on Mon Aug 15th 2005 at 1:54pm
Guessmyname
342 posts
Posted 2005-08-15 1:54pm
342 posts 173 snarkmarks Registered: Dec 6th 2004
Sorry. the Snarkpits been working on and off for me for some time now, but I think its back to normal (insert cheer here)

Anyway, it is wings3d (www.wings3d.com) that I use.

I've joined a mod team so most maps and models go towards that. I won't say which one because we haven't been announced yet...

Anyway, good to be back at the Pit (proper)!
www.filefence.com. Free vmf hosting!