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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 12:18am
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Let's see if I manage this one...

I did this poster in about 30-50 Minutes. After watching Episode III the Star Wars trend just caught me (again).

Aspects of valuation:
  • Choice of the original motif<LI>Implementation of the motif<LI>combinations of colours<LI>Logo<LI>Writings<LI>anything else you can think of?
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I try to upload more of my work onto my website.... in a couple of days.

EDIT: I choose Boba Fetts "rising" because he is one of the characters always around but never receiving gratitude for it.
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Re: Poster Posted by Underdog on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 12:27am
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I think the word you are searching for is "Motif" not "Motive"

Boba Fett's life is not worthy of a feature film. I like what you attempted however so do not be discouraged because I tend to think wet blanket thoughts.

You need an "Other" option.
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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 12:40am
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Righty. Thanks alot. It's getting late over here.
I also updated "Why Boba Fett"

I always try to use a not-so-common-character. Like Getting like away from like mainstream-like, I do.
And for that I use motifs ('ve gotta watch out) not very well known - but moslty screen captures.
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Re: Poster Posted by Underdog on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 12:54am
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Firstly, I am far from scholarly so use my advice sparingly. Secondly, Fett died in the belly of a thing that keeps eating you for years. THATS noteworthy, not movie worthy, but noteworthy.

Thinking of a story that ends that way is strange at best.
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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 1:05am
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/Smirks

Yes, he died very strange. Maybe even poor. But in the end: He's one of these who make Star Wars what it is....
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Re: Poster Posted by Underdog on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 1:14am
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I noticed an oddity about that ages ago. The star wars universe had some note worthy characters alright, yet for all their fame, they died poorly. Fett gets eaten and Jaba gets choked, The Emperor gets tossed and Vader just dies.

It seems to me that the ending of these people were not thought out to their full extent. I am sure that not all needed to die gloriously, but when you think about how easily they passed, why did it take years?
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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 1:36am
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If it didn't take years there wouldn't be 6 times 2 hours of cinematic material about it.

These IF-causes give me the creeps. I never can tell wether I did it right or wrong. Apologies in advance.
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Re: Poster Posted by OtZman on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 2:29am
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The background picture is kinda grainy, other then that it looks pretty nice.
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Re: Poster Posted by Crono on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 2:40am
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I would suggest staying away from glow unless you can use it seemlessly.

Also, it'd be a good idea to try to mimic the font style more so (letters lead into each other without inturruption, etc.)

The source picture is terrible quality.

I also always had something against posters and such that were just screen shots of movies. Nothing personal though.

A little addition of composite work and it'd be something else.
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Re: Poster Posted by DrGlass on Sun Jul 31st 2005 at 8:59pm
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I agree with crono here.

Picture is horrible quality

Glow doesn't work quite right and looks a bit strange.

The II should look more beind the text.

font could use some work, I dont like the bottom text the color pops out too much on the glow.

Also the glow around the kid is too much, tone it down a bit. The
picture is good enough (I really like the choice). The glow
dissconnects the subject from the ground too much.
Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Mon Aug 1st 2005 at 12:15pm
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Thanks alot, to all of you.

These are very value informations. I Try to use the effects more in a subtile way.

I rember putting the II behind the Star Wars logo but it didn't look too well. So I decied a fade through would be best. I'll revise it anyways.

The logo really is inaccurate. I just wanted to do some kind of basic work to look wether the motif and the picture in general would be a fitting with the logo and stuff - or even not. But as far as I can tell from this thread this work has had a nice start - just needs some reviseing (is this a real word?)

I think I post v.2 soon.

EDIT: Oh Jeah: The source quality is kinda low. But I want you to consider that in addition to the lowquality source I downsampled the jpg file because of upload time and file size. The release version is going to be a higher quality.
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Re: Poster Posted by Leperous on Mon Aug 1st 2005 at 4:27pm
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Underdog said:
I noticed an oddity about that ages ago. The star wars universe had some note worthy characters alright, yet for all their fame, they died poorly. Fett gets eaten and Jaba gets choked, The Emperor gets tossed and Vader just dies.
Well, at least they die, unlike all the stupidly "invincible" good guys! Besides, Obi Wan just vanishes, and a lot of very minor goodguys get blown up in fighters etc. Though I suppose there's some beheadings and the like in the new films...
Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Mon Aug 1st 2005 at 10:02pm
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Good afternoon,

I revised this thing a litte. I am proud of how the logo turned out.

And right now the box of cookies is at 50%

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For the ones interested: access my website - for more works. And just for the record: I like to do photo shopping just as a hobby.

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Re: Poster Posted by DrGlass on Tue Aug 2nd 2005 at 3:22am
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I like what you did with the II and the less glow looks much
better. Picture still sucks quality wise, you need to find
another one.

The text at the bottome sticks out too much, there is a bit of a black
edge to them, try and use soft text and maybe make them about 90% opaque
Re: Poster Posted by Crono on Tue Aug 2nd 2005 at 7:31am
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Honestly, you should touch up the picture bringing out the kid more, or make it more of a silhouette.

It'd also be a good idea to find something to help frame the shot.

As for the letters ... they're still bugging me. I messed around for a couple minutes and made this, perhaps it'd help you get some other ideas (ignore the blue):

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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Tue Aug 2nd 2005 at 4:36pm
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I don't know... My inspiration left....

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Re: Poster Posted by im.thatoneguy on Tue Aug 2nd 2005 at 5:20pm
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Better.. Now take off the bevel and we're getting somewhere. As a general rule, except for stroke, it's easier to do more harm than good with layer styles.
Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Tue Aug 2nd 2005 at 8:38pm
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im.thatoneguy,

my dictionary says something like bevel = skewness.

I'm afraind I don't really now whaat you mean. I mean I understand the word. But I.. I can't see any bevel objects in that picutre. Shall I turn the picture clockwise or something? I really can't see it.

EDIT: I mean... hold on... You think it's getting better? Thank you.

Oh and Crono: I'm sorry; I was just too lazy changing the font into a none-outline. Actually this doesn't count any longer. I figured a way to convert it.

:rolleyes:

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Re: Poster Posted by im.thatoneguy on Tue Aug 2nd 2005 at 10:39pm
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Oh sorry ummm.. bevel....

Bevel is the 3d effect on the letters. So I guess slant is the right translation, but it's refering to the lighting on the letters. The illusion of depth on "Star Wars" isn't helping the rest of the poster.
Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Wed Aug 3rd 2005 at 12:33am
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Oh. I see. Almost thought about it.

Kinda tricky though. Crono thinks some 3D effect on the 'Star Wars' would be nice.
Personally I liked it as it was in v. 1 and 2 (With that black cloud around, flatshaded plain red).

Is there a criteria why the bevel doesn't do any good? I could tell I dislike it somehow; but I can't really tell why. Any ideas?

-till later.

I might try this non-outline trick I thought about. But first things first. Sleeping time
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Re: Poster Posted by Crono on Wed Aug 3rd 2005 at 9:04am
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No, it was just an example. The black glow, or burn, whatever you did, was not nice to look at. It was just some example to give you ideas, that's all. It does look better though.

Not sure what you're trying with the black out of the background though.

But overall, I'd suggest removing all the glows. They just look bad. Also, try connecting the II together.

Looking better though.
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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Thu Aug 4th 2005 at 8:33am
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Ho Crono,

I did the black gradient in order to try to frame the shot and bring out the kid a little more. Obviously it didn't work out well. So I reduced all that.

The 'II' joined together looks pretty good. But on the original Star Wars poster its done like I did it. And I want to stick to the original. For that I framed the 'Star Wars' and removed the black cloud around. Just a slight shadow, I think, is left.

As for the quality; I'll just have to leave it like this until I find a better source.

This poster made it through some major changes, I think. And as far as I can tell it's doing really well. I wouldn't change much more - it might start to get worse.

Anyhow, I appreciate your further comments.

kindly,
uups. Now I totally forgot the new, version 4

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PS:
im.thatoneguy,
I'm sorry about that "bevel-confusion". Until that day I was using the german version of Photoshop. But I stopped that. you can use all the regular PS espressions now.
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Re: Poster Posted by DrGlass on Thu Aug 4th 2005 at 1:47pm
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THat looks alot better. Still you need to find that picture in higher quiality!!
Re: Poster Posted by ReNo on Thu Aug 4th 2005 at 3:21pm
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Yeah thats looking heaps better. One thing I think you should do is
make a backup layer of that "Star Wars" text (just hide it, its only in
case you want to go back to it later), then rasterize the visible one
and move the letter A's in both words a little left.
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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Sun Aug 7th 2005 at 11:17pm
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Busy days...

Well I did some more work on these letters. Firstly I moved the "A"s little. Much better now. And I changed the font of the "II". It should look more like the original. It was hard to find a proper font, but I think it is an improvement.

Version 5 that is. - Check it out.
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Re: Poster Posted by OtZman on Sun Aug 7th 2005 at 11:32pm
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Perhaps a wee bit too dark...

I suppose it depends on the color of the background. It looks darker
when viewed against a white background for example. Perhaps the color
of the background on which the final poster is supposed to be placed
should be taken into consideration.
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Re: Poster Posted by Crapceeper on Fri Aug 12th 2005 at 4:04pm
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Hi OtZman,

Jeah. I checked out how it looks like on a white background. And I have to admit: not pretty. But I guess if one uses it as a wallpaper he certainly has a black background (Referring to the "post your desktop" topic).

I will stop working on this until I have a better source picture of Boba Fett. And I want to thank you* for your comments and your help.

Just in case: If you want to have a hi-res version (or anything of my previous work) PM me.

Tanks alot.

*: Of course I'm referring to every-single-one who commented this piece of work
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