Radeon X800Radeon X850

Hey guyz, i have Radeon 9700 pro...and im planning to get a new GFX card...can someone tell me which one is better to buy ( for games) ... Radeon X800 or Radeon X850???...i heard the there is XT or PRO, i actually no nothing in difference between them, but i hope some of you guyz can know...please tell me which is better to buy, i dont care of it costs alot, i care for the best...

Thanks all...

Ok basically just get a Radeon 9600 or 9800 XT. They are good cards (better than the pro) and are about the same price as the pro. They are also the later models so any version of it you get will be fine for the next year or 2.

As well as this I believe you get a free copy of HL2! LOL! You have to pay for the shipping of it and it takes 28 days to arrive, but you can get a free copy!

Thanks for your reply, but what about radeon X800 or X850 ???? arent they the latest??

X800 and X850? What are they? I though by X you meant 6 or 9 or 8 series...

I thought that they were basically the same card with different cooling
mechanisms. If it were me I'd go for whichever is cheaper.

X850 is only slightly more powerful then the X800, honestly if your going to spend that much money, then spend it on the newest Nvidia card (no ATI vs Nvidia thread plz) 6800 GT (I think thats what it is), because honestly, this card runs all games better than the ATI's X800 cards. Just read about it on any site that bench marks these cards, and you'll see that Nvidia came out on top!

Edit: BTW this is comming from someone who HAS the X800 XT PE

X800 and X850? What are they? I though by X you meant 6 or 9 or 8 series...

X is the new series, higher than the 9800's. What I've heard about the
x850 is that there is a small power boost above the x800's. So if it's
going to cost more than say ?20-?30 extra then there might be little
point depending on your view.

honestly if your going to spend that much money, then spend it
on the newest Nvidia card (no ATI vs Nvidia thread plz) 6800 GT

As much as I say that I am not a fan of Nvidia, I've gotta admit that
thier 6800 series is very good. I've heard lots of good comments on the
overclockability, I looked in a magazine today which had an article on
the FPS of nvidia v ati GFX cards, the lower-mid range ATI's beat the
Nvidia's by quite a bit, but the 6800's were around the same as the
x800's.

No matter how good their products are, Nvidia's customer support will always be a big no-no.

Me being a ATI person, I hate to admit that Nvidia is better, but their 6800 GT is slightly more powerful than the x800 XT, the x850 is ATI's solution to getting better frames than the 6800 GT. Right now we are in between generartions of graphics cards on both sides. Soon someone will release the next big step.

If you are willing to drop 500$ for a new gfx card, wait till the next gen cards are released, then you will be on top the next round, instead of "being behind".

It's best to do some individual research before asking in forums whose members will ususally just suggest you buy the thing they have. www.anandtech.com is a good place to start. Search on google for x850 review.

it's X because it used to be the 9xxx series, and X comes after nine :smile:

X850 nice card believe me :wink:

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting omegaslayer</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Me being a ATI person, I hate to admit that Nvidia is better, but their 6800 GT is slightly more powerful than the x800 XT, the x850 is ATI's solution to getting better frames than the 6800 GT. Right now we are in between generartions of graphics cards on both sides. Soon someone will release the next big step.

If you are willing to drop 500$ for a new gfx card, wait till the next gen cards are released, then you will be on top the next round, instead of "being behind".

</DIV></DIV>

Its ok, ill buy anything lol, but if you say the Nvidia is better than X800, is better than X850 too???!?

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting SuperCobra</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>X850 nice card believe me :wink:
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Do you have it!??, if you do please tell me what does it improve in gaming...

you should get the 6800 GT SLI well that is if you want 2 gfx cards and to fork out on a new motherboard.

Thr 9600 XT is not better than a 9800 Pro! The 9800 Pro 256bit is the
same as an underclocked XT, and a 128 is a 9800 XT with lower clocks
and a slower memory bus. The X850 is a marketing scam! You'd be better
off getting a X800 Pro ViVo and modding the BIOS to an XT, it's very
simple. There are 100s of guides on the net about it.

omegaslayer said:
Me being a ATI person, I hate to admit that
Nvidia is better, but their 6800 GT is slightly more powerful than the
x800 XT, the x850 is ATI's solution to getting better frames than the
6800 GT. Right now we are in between generartions of graphics cards on
both sides. Soon someone will release the next big step.

If you are willing to drop 500$ for a new gfx card, wait till the
next gen cards are released, then you will be on top the next round,
instead of "being behind".

Its ok, ill buy anything lol, but if you say the Nvidia is better than X800, is better than X850 too???!?

I wouldnt say its better, just it wont over heat as much a ATI's card
(because the 6800 GT takes up the PCI slot underneth for its massive
fan/heatsink). You have to ask your self, who do you want to provide
you your graphics? ATI which has great/constant software updates, or
Nvidia who has been around longer than AIT and knows what they are
doing.

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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting m0p</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Thr 9600 XT is not better than a 9800 Pro! The 9800 Pro 256bit is the same as an underclocked XT, and a 128 is a 9800 XT with lower clocks and a slower memory bus. The X850 is a marketing scam! You'd be better off getting a X800 Pro ViVo and modding the BIOS to an XT, it's very simple. There are 100s of guides on the net about it.
</DIV></DIV>
So you suggest to me to buy Radeon X800 pro ?!

That would be my choice if I were you, but you could always find a cheap 9800 Pro.

Man, its not about the money, im searching for a good GFX card, in ATI actually, i really like ATI most, so Radeon X800 pro??? or Radeon X850 Pro ?!?!

Hmm, the X850 is PCI-E right? And you probably have an AGP mobo, so the
current most powerful AGP card is either an X800 XT PE or a 6800 Ultra,
unless you count those $1000 3dlabs cards heh. You could as I have
said, get a X800 Pro ViVo and mod it to an XT PE, but the mod isn't
always successful and when it fails your card is ruined. So... you
should find an XT PE somewhere, they are hard to come by, so if you
cant find one, get a regular XT (lower clocks) which are easier to
find, or, failing that, an X800 Pro or X800 Pro ViVo.

Ok thanks dude, ill gat the X800 pro thing in like a week lol, and i have AGP...so ill buy the AGP card... and after 1 year in like 2006, ill think of buying this 3D-Labs card, but not now lol...cuzz i have a good one now, and ill add 100 extra GB to my PC soon..so itll be 180 GB in total :smile:

You could as I have
said, get a X800 Pro ViVo and mod it to an XT PE, but the mod isn't
always successful and when it fails your card is ruined.

If your talking about a softmod then no, the card won't be ruined as he
is just opening up extra pipelines, all he has to do is uninstall the
software he is using and install the correct ati drivers.

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and ill add 100 extra GB to my PC soon

Is that all?

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No, the softmod isn't always succesful on newer cards. Instead of
changing the device ID to 40, it goes to 38, which makes it unusuable.
The pro default is 39. and XT PE is 40. The card will still work, but
the mod wont work and it will decrease performance quite a bit. A few
people at XtremeSystems have has this happen to them when softmodding
the X800 Pro ViVo.

Instead of
changing the device ID to 40, it goes to 38, which makes it unusuable.

Can't it be fixed though with the original drivers installed?

It's a BIOS thing when it screws up like that. If you flash the BIOS back to original, the deviceid still remains 38.