Windows XP on SATA

Windows XP on SATA

Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 7:25pm
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We're having a problem here at work... We can't get windows XP setup to detect our SATA drives to install on them. So, how? All our BIOS stuff is set up correctly. Do we need to "press f6 to install 3rd party scsi drivers?"

Crono?

NM/ i found it. it needs 3rd party drivers, off-brand s**te....

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Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by French Toast on Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 8:19pm
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Woohoo!

Whats SATA?
Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Crapceeper on Mon Sep 26th 2005 at 9:16pm
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That's the thing you want when you're doing Video Editing or transferring huge ammounts of data.

Serial-ATA is faster than.... USB 2.2 or 2.0? I can't really remember.
But I want to have such a thing. My next mobo will have at least one
SATA connector.

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Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by rs6 on Tue Sep 27th 2005 at 1:16am
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SATA is about 150 megabytes per second transfer rate, while regualr ATA is either 100 or 133 megabytes per second. It doesn't seem like that much of an increase, but it adds up after a couple seconds of transfer with a SATA, you have transfered a whole lot more than a ATA drive. The fastest type of drive is SCSI, they do like i think 600 megabytes per second and are mainly used in servers and high performance machines.

SATA = serial ATA
ATA= I don't remeber
SCSI= small computer scalable interface (I think)
Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Crono on Tue Sep 27th 2005 at 6:11am
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I found that a lot of boards implicitly use RAID when using SATA for the first time. You have to go turn it off in BIOS. But it could be a driver issue too (which it was in this situation.)

Just giving other alternatives if the problem ever arises again ... for anyone.

I was at school all day ... sorry.

By the way, I'm sure you know this, but SCSI isn't the same as SATA. Sata should work just like IDE though, as far as I know. I've never done it myself, but I've helped people and found the answer for them several times and helped them out, learned that way. It really seems like it's just because SATA gets associated with RAID a lot.

Something I've heard is a huge pain in the ass is getting raid to work with a SATA drive and a PATA drive (I can't believe that's what they're calling it now ... I never heard that until this year)

rs, there's ATA 60 and lower too. (or is it 66?)
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Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Sep 27th 2005 at 11:07pm
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it's ATA66.

And in this case, the SATA is treated as a SCSI i tihnk just because it is a "less recognized" form of device interface, whereas, IDE is the norm. But dma33 ATA66 ATA100 and ATA133 can all use the same cable except in cableselect setups.
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Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Myrk- on Wed Sep 28th 2005 at 12:01pm
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Dude I do XP installs on Sata all the time. When you got your mobo or sata drive it should have come with a floppy disk. Go into Bios and turn on everything to do with RAID and stuff. Theres a few options about SATA (which is a form of RAID if you want to extend your knowledge crono) over IDE etc.

When installing windows it says at the bottom about 3rd party raid drivers, press the button for it. Insert the floppy disk then load up the drivers. If you don't know which ones they are, load up 3 random drivers then try a different 3 next time you load. Basically computers aren't set up for using SATA properly yet.
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Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Madedog on Wed Sep 28th 2005 at 12:49pm
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ATA (Advanced Technology Attachment) is the official
name for what the computer industry calls computer industry calls
Integrated Drive Electronics (IDE).

Wished in the future we have no needs for drivers for SATA...


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Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Sep 28th 2005 at 2:52pm
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Yeah, Myrk, I figured it out. This is our first time doing SATA. AND we didn't get a disk with ours, they wanted us to make our own... what is this, anyway?? Linux?? (make your own drivers)
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Re: Windows XP on SATA Posted by Crono on Wed Sep 28th 2005 at 4:46pm
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Myrk, you're wrong. Flat out. (let me explain)

RAID is not SATA. They're not one in the same.

Not sure where you got the idea that they were the same. The reason why you, obviously, think they are is that you never disabled RAID (or couldn't) when using a single SATA drive, therefore how did you fix it? You installed the RAID drivers, thinking that was the best solution.

If the option is there you can turn off an option something like: "Configure SATA as RAID ---- Yes/No", then you set it to NO if you have only one drive.

However, apparently, not all boards have that option, in which case you use drivers during Windows install ... or whatever OS install for that matter. (Most times, you activate raid ... and it can configure its self on single mode ... which isn't enabling raid, otherwise you'd have to do some serious configuration)

But don't for a second think that SATA and RAID are the same thing ... that doesn't make sense ... it's like saying a Manual car interface is the same as the timing on your fuel injectors ... it makes no sense, even if they are (somewhat) related.
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