Superman Movie

Superman Movie

Re: Superman Movie Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Tue Jun 27th 2006 at 6:27am
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Ok, I know I'm a little early with (by technicality, 2 days) but I just finished watching the screening at my job and I must say, excellent. Although a bit laggy in the middle of the movie, but once you realize how vital those parts are, you're glad the director didn't cut them. This is perhaps one of the best 3 hour (2:50) movies in a long time.

Also, sopposed to be attached to the Superman movies is the Trailer for next years Spiderman 3, and what a good trailer it is. From the moment the trailor starts, you start twitch in your seat as you realize they are finally doing Venom. VENOM!! Not only that, but how they will play it out is through a more reasonable coloring of the suit black, like nanomachines infesting the Spidersuit (instead of a bolby like creature portrayed in comics and the Ultimate Spiderman Game). This should be intreseting when it comes time for the movie to be released next year.

Any way, stop with my rambling. Post your preemptive thoughts about this movie, and thouse who see it, post what you think.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by DrGlass on Tue Jun 27th 2006 at 7:25am
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I didn't like X3, so I don't (didn't) have high hopes for this movie. (though I guess X3 sucked because the original, talented director went to direct another movie... a better movie?)

I'll pay my $10 in a few weeks.
Re: Superman Movie Posted by French Toast on Tue Jun 27th 2006 at 2:30pm
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Unless everyone says this movie is incredible, I won't see it. Looks like crap to me.
Re: Superman Movie Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Tue Jun 27th 2006 at 4:45pm
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In response to Dr Glass:
The reason the director of the first 2 Xmen left because he was asked to do the Superman movie, not to mention that he was offered enough money to make Superman Returns the most expensive movie ever made.

But I can understnad why many would hesitate, and in some cases many would not like this film, it has a lot of plot building scenes, and by the end, one could feel there wasn't enough, even though its 3 hours. But then again, the director did an excelent job with this film.

Just wait till Friday, it will have been out for 3 days, and the reviews will have piled up. Find the critic whose personal preferences most match your own, and go by their word to determin wheter you might like it or not. But, I must say, there is nothing like seeing a bullet proof eye. [end]
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Crono on Tue Jun 27th 2006 at 7:45pm
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I didn't like X3, so I don't (didn't) have high hopes for this movie. (though I guess X3 sucked because the original, talented director went to direct another movie... a better movie?)

I'll pay my $10 in a few weeks.
Yeah ... this movie.

I honestly don't understand how this could look "bad". They're not reinventing Superman, this is a sequel picking up after Superman 2. (Since 3 and 4 weren't the best movies anyway)
Singer has a way to make movies feel "true" yet also make them unique and new. I have no doubt this is something he achieved with Superman Returns.

Also, seriously, trailers can make anything look bad. Maybe you've only seen the crappy trailers? Because the ones they're showing on TV (here) look awful.

Then again, Warner Brothers might just not care about Canada. Who knows?
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Stadric on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 1:16am
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I'm not really a big Superman fan, to me, he's too powerful. Nonetheless, I have seen all four Superman movies, but I thought they were all cheesy. Good for a lazy Saturday afternoon, though.

I'll see the movie when it comes out at my local cheap movie theater ($3 per movie, instead of $10)
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by DrGlass on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 1:25am
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yeah I'd see it for $3 no doubt. Its not that I think the trailer looks bad, its just that almost all super-hero movies have sucked really hard. Though the director did make the 2 good x-men movies, I still don't trust him... It would be a different story if movies were affordable, and creativity was the norm. Thats not the case, movies cost too much and creativity is all but crushed by the narrow minded, talentless hacks who run the movie industry.
Re: Superman Movie Posted by Crono on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 1:50am
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Bryan Singer is very talented. He also made The Usual Suspects and Apt Pupil, if you're still doubtful.

Hulk, Spider-Man 1 and 2, X Men 1 and 2, Sin City, V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, Constantine and Hellboy are all good comic book/superhero movies, some better than others. But to say there is an influx in bad comic book movies is bulls**t. Ther have been bad ones (Punisher) but by far, there are more good ones than poorly made hunks of crap.

I'm thankful that thus far (for the most part) people who have gotten their hands on comic properties have been fans of the title themselves.

In any case, I'm seeing this tonight and I fully trust Singer. As I said before, he has NEVER made a bad movie and he isn't going to start now.

Just be thankful Burton didn't get it like he wanted. Nicholas Cage was slated to be Superman in that case. Kevin Smith was also attached to write it at one point ... and he's a f**king douchebag wrapped in a loser. Not very good at writing either.

Be happy that you got the best of the best. If you don't like it still: fine. But at least realize that this is a treat, especially when compared to what was going to be made pre-batman begins. WB seems to have learned their lesson with keeping their grubby paws out of the properties and let people be creative.

I'm cautious of Spider-Man 3. I mean, it'll be great, I trust Raimi completely, but, I think Venom is too soon. Even if he isn't Venom until the end of the movie. That and Danny Elfman doesn't want to be involved in this one :sad:

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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 4:04am
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Spawn......

the biggest dissapointment going.....(in the comic genre anyway.....)

everything has been tolerable since, as the bar was reset way low, imho.....

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Re: Superman Movie Posted by DrGlass on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 5:32am
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Bryan Singer is very talented. He also made The Usual Suspects and Apt Pupil, if you're still doubtful.

Hulk, Spider-Man 1 and 2, X Men 1 and 2, Sin City, V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, Constantine and Hellboy are all good comic book/superhero movies, some better than others. But to say there is an influx in bad comic book movies is bulls**t. Ther have been bad ones (Punisher) but by far, there are more good ones than poorly made hunks of crap.
Yeah, you'er right. I supose that the bad ones hang in my mind, plus I was never a huge fan of many of the comic books, the ones I did follow it wasn't seiroous by any means.
Also I didn't see hellboy, hulk, and V.
Creativity is growing it seems, but at the same time the crap is getting crappier it seems.

all in all, this is a movie I'd like to see. Seeing how I didn't know about Singer's credentials.
Re: Superman Movie Posted by Crono on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 9:22am
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Just got home.

It was awesome. It's a lot of movie, that's for sure.

The only gripe I have is that some parts of the movie feel awkwardly paced. But, all in all it was wonderful. I enjoyed the more realistic aspect to Superman's personality. It's about goddamned time.

The scenes that pit Lex against Kal are so well done. Oh man.

Spawn was a terrible hunk of s**t. I believe I was listing ones that were good :razz:
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 3:23pm
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twas just an unrelated sidenote crones....i knew what you were doing.... :razz:

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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 4:02pm
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Comic book movies (might add game movies to that) has been a hit and miss catagory. The comic book storys are so illaborate that many times the stoy only appeals to a comic book fan. So in most cases the director has to create a balance between detail and duration. For instance, I felt at times that Lex wasn't getting much of that on-screen development. The sad part is, though, that many excellent comic book movies have been deemed terrible. I for one loved V for Vendetta, but at my theater it moved from a large house to a small house in a weeks period. In many cases, it's the topic and director that determines whether a comic book movie will servive.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Myrk- on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 5:29pm
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From what I have heard, the superman film had something like 8 directors and took 12 years to make. At one point Tim Burton was director.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 6:08pm
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I saw it last night at a premier showing. It was a GREAT movie. I can't even pinpoint what made it great, but I hope they make more. They did a good job choosing who will play Superman.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Crono on Wed Jun 28th 2006 at 7:13pm
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From what I have heard, the superman film had something like 8 directors and took 12 years to make. At one point Tim Burton was director.
Yeah, that was the version that was going to suck. Not that Tim Burton is a bad film maker, but he shouldn't touch comic book movies ever again unless it is just his own thing and the studios understand that.

Some other people wanted to make a Batman Superman project. But that guy was terrible too.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Myrk- on Thu Jun 29th 2006 at 12:54am
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Nickelplate said:
They did a good job choosing who will play Superman.
They tried to keep it quiet that the actor was gay, as it was forseen that it would jepardise sales if everyone knew thuperman was gay :razz:
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Jun 29th 2006 at 9:04pm
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Stadric on Thu Jun 29th 2006 at 9:53pm
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So, truth, justice, and the pursuit of fashion? :rolleyes:
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by OtZman on Thu Jun 29th 2006 at 10:08pm
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:lol:

I haven't seen a single superman tv episode or movie before, will I have any trouble understanding this one?
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Spartan on Thu Jun 29th 2006 at 10:32pm
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Myrk- said:
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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting Nickelplate</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>They did a good job choosing who will play Superman.
They tried to keep it quiet that the actor was gay, as it was forseen that it would jepardise sales if everyone knew thuperman was gay :razz: </div></div>
Would make a great opening movie to show at a republican convention. :lol:
Re: Superman Movie Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Thu Jun 29th 2006 at 10:54pm
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Although it's very detailed, you could seriously watch the movie and understand what's going on. I've never seen a single Superman Movie (other than a several episodes of Smallville, which has very little in common with the movie.) and understood words and phrases as they poped up, such as the "fortress of solitude" sudenly rang a bell and I had hardly ever heard it before.

Go watch it, and anythong you really didn't understand in the begining should become clear by the end.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by French Toast on Thu Jun 29th 2006 at 11:44pm
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Can Superman not be obvious? He's a guy in spandex with super powers.
Re: Superman Movie Posted by OtZman on Fri Jun 30th 2006 at 1:55am
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Can Superman not be obvious? He's a guy in spandex with super powers.
That much I've understood, was more thinking about all the characters,
background ect. I mean, isn't there more to know about batman than that
he's some dude in a black suit fighting crime?

Actually, I think I've seen a few cartoon episodes of superman.

Will watch this movie, sounds good.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Myrk- on Fri Jun 30th 2006 at 12:39pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman

For anyone who wants to know more... Hes quite an interesting guy- pretty much invincible apart from the element Kryptonite, which comes from his home world Krypton. The basic jist is that superman came from Krypton just before it got destroyed, and came to earth in a meteor shower in a small space pod as a 3 year old boy or something. Long story short, Kent family finds him, knows hes different, raises him as thier own and teaches him in the most moral anyone could how to use his powers. As he gets older he learns new stuff, don't think he knows how to fly for a while.

Thats kinda background info that absolutely everyone on the planet should know. Theres a few different superman versions, for instance smallville focused on the story that superman was actually a weapon sent to destroy, but the moral guidance of the kents saved him, and helped him overcome his father (who I think is just in his head). All the stories do have a secret place that only superman can go to- in the films it was a crystal room with some geezer in it, in smallville some wierd cave with artefacts, but Lex Luthor found that cave I think. Smallville is also about Superman in college, so its kinda like the OC crossed with that program Supernaturals.

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Superman only ever died once against the foe Doomsday, who was made of Kryptonite. He did come back to life however.

The problem with comic book recreations though is that they love to add in new information to stick with the times. Originally Batman was some random rich dude with a wierd past that built a cave and fought evil with a toolbelt and a strong fist. In Batman Begins they make him all phsychologically wierd and kung fu master!
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Crono on Fri Jun 30th 2006 at 2:38pm
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The problem with comic book recreations though is that they love to add in new information to stick with the times. Originally Batman was some random rich dude with a wierd past that built a cave and fought evil with a toolbelt and a strong fist. In Batman Begins they make him all phsychologically wierd and kung fu master!
Uh ... Batman was a Kung fu master in the comics. More specifically he was a samurai. Had a sensai and everything. Fought lots of other samurai too.

Batman Begins hit the nail on the head. Superman Returns shows the much shuned aspect of him being an alien and an outsider.

But also in the comics, Superman was basically a simple minded puppet for many people, especially governments. I'm glad that they made him smarter in the film. It's about damned time.
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Re: Superman Movie Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Jun 30th 2006 at 8:27pm
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I... didn't like the movie that much. I think it merely touched on him being an alien/outsider, it didn't really go into it much further. Plus I thought the whole father/son cycle thing was a little sloppily done too. I also agree with what someone said about the pacing being awkward sometimes. Yeah, it's a summer movie, what did I expect? Something more, considering that I liked the first two X-Men movies.

The effects were nice though, and I'll admit the various setpieces were cool. I just expected more substance behind the action. Either that or I missed this substance entirely, and someone should point it out to me. :smile:

Oh, and that little kid was annoying as hell. Kevin Spacey was awesome though.