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Topic message body box has both black background and black text?!

Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Mar 2nd 2008 at 5:27pm
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<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting French Toast</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>Awesome, so now that yo repeatedly refuse to back up your garbage, we've managed to arrive nowhere. I assume thigs will continue as normal, I'll say something, be it personal belief or fact, and you'll sweep on in with your slew of insults telling me how much of a failure I am in ever facet of life and how stupid I am, and then when pressed fail to back any of that up.

Cheers for now.</DIV></DIV>
Alright, here's just one small example of why your first statement in this thread is dumb. You state that '[Shakespeare] was meant to be performed for the lower class' and call it 'lowest common denominator of theatre'. What you are saying in this is theatre or art in general is only good if it is made for some tiny niche group or for the wealthy. Anything that can be enjoyed by the 'lowest class' is automatically garbage apparently. This is pure elitism and it's wrong, by the way, as has been seen time and time again in current mediums such as movies and music. It's not even true for Shakespeare, because while he clearly had characters and scenes in most of his plays that 'play' directly to the common folk they aren't the main thrust of any play I've read and are there to throw them a bone so to speak. And to reduce Shakespeare to 'murder and sex' says nothing about its quality because you can do that for any work of art.

As an aside it's pretty humorous that the plays are supposedly so base, simple, and accessable by the lowest of the lowest in 17th century Britain, yet many Americans probably can't or won't read them because of how hard to understand they are. Perhaps you would take a shot at the American education system here, and I would totally agree with you, but that's not the point.

Here's a small list of a few other issues:
-you state that it wasn't meant to be studied, uh no s**t no art is written or made 'to be studied', it's studied after the fact when people see how seminal it is
-the 'murder and sex' label fits the majority of drama ever made, it probably also fits every single religious mythology for f**k's sake
-another way to interpret my first point is that you say 'popular = bad' which is a fallacy
-it's not 'brilliant' because you don't like it. Despite Shakespeare's legendary status, his plays still being performed and remade into movies today, and being taught in English classes everywhere, it's no good because you don't like it. If only everyone was as intelligent as you and saw the blinding light of obviousness.

Your 'personal belief', i.e. that you know more than everyone else, be it about this, your stance on religion, or video game design, is laughable, and if you don't want to be called on it stop posting it. Perhaps if you posted simply your beliefs without the 'everyone else who has this commonly held view is wrong and here's why, because I am smarter' there wouldn't be any problem. And if you see some sort of irony in me making that statement than you know why I'm laughing at you.

[EDIT]damn, Fishy just schooled me with a more effective post 1/10th my size. I've been trying to work on brevity but damn it is hard.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by reaper47 on Sun Mar 2nd 2008 at 6:19pm
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Perhaps if you posted simply your beliefs without the 'everyone else who has this commonly held view is wrong and here's why, because I am smarter' there wouldn't be any problem. And if you see some sort of irony in me making that statement than you know why I'm laughing at you.
anyone that hates Shakespeare is a goddamned idiot
Laugh at me, but I do see the irony.
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Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Mar 2nd 2008 at 7:32pm
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Well that's meant to be directed at Mr. Toast, not at the general readership. You see the 'irony' but not why I would be laughing, since my first post is a half-troll half-truth said tongue-in-cheekly meant to facilitate a response (in this case debate about the merits of Shakespeare) whereas that's his actual real-life view in the debate at question, as embarassingly weak as it is.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by reaper47 on Mon Mar 3rd 2008 at 12:09pm
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Well, you know it's just as hard for me as it is for him to see the difference between the "tongue-in-cheekiness" and an actual insult. Your response really sounded like an insult, way above even the usual humorous, exaggerated and sarcastic manner of speaking in an internet forum. Frenchy didn't insult your mother or anything, he just mentioned an old, boring theory, probably heard in an English lesson and you didn't even bother explaining your problem with it and instead started to attack him personally in a totally assholeish way. I don't see why you're actually defending being a troll here. I wouldn't even be writing this if I felt you're enjoying this, but you seem to be honestly upset. So WTF is this about?
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Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Mar 3rd 2008 at 7:24pm
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say what

Why can't people read? This is an internet forum where the only means of communication is typed word after all. I explicitly added 'first' post to my last post so you'd know that the post I'm referring to is the very first post I made in the thread and French Toast's initial response to it, nothing else. There is nothing 'tongue-in-cheek' about my second and third posts.

As for your post, I dunno what to say since you based it all off an incorrect premise. Thanks for trying though I appreciate the effort.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by OVRKLL on Mon Mar 3rd 2008 at 7:27pm
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Okay, I'm leaving now... Seriously, folks, just let this thread die already :S
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Snarkmaster on Mon Mar 3rd 2008 at 8:59pm
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Here, let me kill it for you. All I've got to do is make one harmless little post, and everyone will avoid this thread like the plague. It doesn't even matter what I post!
Observe.

Zorgal mant neep-zeep urqul fonz ein veeper dos zee optic! Girbal boojums toen zee vost eber goumb morro! Alio barb snark gon kak vor zee vrat cru empubrixica! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

That was surprisingly satisfying.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 2:13am
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All of these dumb garbage posts are honestly much worse than the pointless arguments I started, feel free to stop at any time.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Snarkmaster on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 3:48pm
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Did you actually think I was writing in another language? It was all just keyboard babble!
It wasn't meant for anyone to actually respond to.

Now then, this time for sure.....
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by French Toast on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 6:24pm
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All of these dumb garbage posts are honestly much worse than the pointless arguments I started, feel free to stop at any time.
I've tried ignoring them, they jst won't go away.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Snarkmaster on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 7:12pm
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So the implication here is that I am a dumb piece of garbage that doesn't go away? And that is why you ignore me?
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 7:18pm
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no, that's an attempt at an insult towards me

an incredibly weak one at that

French Toast, good to see that after vehemently demanding explanations and receiving a bounty of them all you can reply with is a slightly more complex version of 'no u'. I'll take this as a tacit admission that you will stop posting stupid s**t on the forums, thank you I'm glad this all worked out.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by RedWood on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 10:42pm
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Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by French Toast on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 11:02pm
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no, that's an attempt at an insult towards me
an incredibly weak one at that
French Toast, good to see that after vehemently demanding explanations and receiving a bounty of them all you can reply with is a slightly more complex version of 'no u'. I'll take this as a tacit admission that you will stop posting stupid s**t on the forums, thank you I'm glad this all worked out.
Actually it wasn't an attempt at insult towards you, it was an acknowledgement of your acknowledgement of how stupid this thread got.

But y'know, whatever floats your boat. Continue to bash other peoples reading comprehension too, 'cause yours sure is soaring above us all.

I was trying to... y'know, back out of this petty argument before it got really stupid, but your continuous insults would seem to show you're not really done. However I definitely am, and with any luck, with these forums too. It's really pathetic that a ranking member of the forums behaves the way you do. It certainly doesn't help the sites image of a bunch of elitist snobs. if you're wondering why the site is deteriorating, look into a mirror.

Cheers boys.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by RedWood on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 11:35pm
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Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Gwil on Tue Mar 4th 2008 at 11:51pm
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There's so many things wrong and also contradictorary with your post Toast it doesn't even warrant a disassembly. See particularly "and with any luck, these forums too".
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by fishy on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 12:37am
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elitist snobs? like people who deny art because it's made for commoners?
i eat paint
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by French Toast on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 12:54am
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^Except that that wasn't my point at all. I've given up trying to defend myself though.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 2:41am
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If I'm really a ranking member of the forums it's through attrition more than any real discernable quality. But hey, if I got you to stop posting than maybe I do deserve some accolades.

It is funny however that you're the one who demanded the argument continue after I gave you a really easy out, so trying to back out of the argument after it turned against you wasn't gonna fly.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by French Toast on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 2:43am
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Hey, don't confuse what i'm saying Yak, you're still wrong, and you're still an asshole, It's just not worth it anymore.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 2:50am
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puts on reading glasses

um excuse me I'm going to need to see a 500 word post with citations on why I'm wrong and an asshole, or I'm not gonna let you pass the course.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by French Toast on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 3:04am
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Yeah, I'm just gonna take a different course, cheers mate.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 3:08am
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So is this where I'm supposed to get so indignant that somebody dared to insult me on the internet? And they wouldn't explain their insults?! Even after I asked nicely?!?! I'm literally frothing at the mouth in anger.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Snarkmaster on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 3:25pm
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This is turning into Comedy Central, and quite quickly too.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by reaper47 on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 4:17pm
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No, not funny at all. I seriously miss the point of why it is Snarkpit's policy not to close threads like this. And close them earlier.
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Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Snarkmaster on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 4:27pm
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My point isn't that it is funny, it is that the whole thread has deteriorated into nothing but constant arguing and lame insults interspersed with nonsense that has all been shoved together with what is essentially a bad joke in the first place [the joke being that black text on a black background is pretty ridiculous]. Such a formula is the one used in almost all Comedy Central television shows. Heck, if someone makes a sexually explicit remark, we could probably market this thread to Comedy Central for big money.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by OVRKLL on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 5:35pm
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Somebody please close this thread.
Just another guy trying to make a map...
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 7:30pm
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If you dislike the thread so much you could, you know, stop bumping it.
Re: Topic message body box has both black background and black text?! Posted by Gwil on Wed Mar 5th 2008 at 7:38pm
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I didn't close it because there was actually some points to be resolved, and unlike other threads I have closed in the past (eg Recently Annoyed By (?) ) it wasn't an out and out s**t flinging thread.

Nevertheless, as Yak rightly points out the thread ran its course then the flotsam/jetsam saw fit to continue bumping it. Closed.