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aaron_da_killa said:Personally, I think that would make it less fun. Being fragged by someone who just popped out from a teleporter by chance to suddenly catch you off-guard would be a sleazy kill. Maybe not by other people's standards, but I think a traditional "walk where you need to go" design would be optimal here. -With a few teleporters, (like two maybe) -As you can see, I'm not a big fan of teleporters unless they're used with style like in some of the Valve DM maps.
"And its good because all of a sudden, you could be fragged off guard by somebody who has just come through from a teleportal."
RedWood said:Yeah, I had fog in your map when I played through it, maybe you have disabled fog in one of the cfg files to increase performance? I thought it was weird because the screenshot you supplied of your map in the other thread didn't have fog :P.
O wow!! why is the pic of my map so foggy? On my comp i couldn't even see the fog unless i nocliped out of the map (i wanted a vary light fog.). If that is the way it looked on everyone's computer than I'd like to have the fog deleted. I think it looks like crap the way it is in the screen riven posted.
So you can all eat my dust. lol
I've been a member of the pit for a couple years now, but I haven't been very active. I'm going to try to get more active here. I'm really excited about hosting the map, because my server is barely being used right now, lol. It's currently being used as a clan server for my clan {SWAT}. As soon as the map is done, I will change the name. My server IP is: 69.28.220.22:27015
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Those look really good man.. WOW I wish I could do caves that well.. that is some fine work there... never saw that one in the vote.Yeah, it was going to be my second entry but I couldn't get it finished in time. But I uploaded anyway for the compilation map.
hlife_hotdog said:Sounds good to me! map away! (following the rules of course) -If you have time... Which I do not...
"I was thinking, perhaps we should get a few of the guyz to make 'corner' maps to fill in the gaps. Like my first map, that would be perfect as a corner. Maybe we should make a few more to patch it up??? Using The actual entry points of the comp maps so that they match up as well as possible??"
and get back to work on my projects! 
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haymaker said:This could be a viable idea. -And a good one! That might be pretty interesting to see trams starting and stopping automatically (with doors that open and close too) that will take pit stops at two different locations in the map. I remember seeing this done before in a map. Same effect, but I don't think it was as elaborate
"It has also occurred to me that the trams could be used as connection between other maps, seeing as I have 2 tracks they could all be connected by train as well as other means. The other stations could just be holes in the tunnel wall where a blockage is or something. I've never tried to build a ridable train so I may be talking horse."
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Riven said:Hmm that's true. I think I'll pass on retouching up the map, but I am seriously disliking some aspects of the map.
@aaron_da_killa: I wouldn't mind you going in and touching-up your map if it wasn't in the competition. Because it was, it's better if it is left in its original state whenever I go around and add the plaques to each entry denoting which one was in the competition. If you change it, then it will not be the map that placed where it did. And if you re-touch it and it becomes radically different, then future players will ask why it placed where it did. They wouldn't know...
However, if you would like to touch-it-up, I can leave out it's entry status...
haymaker said:Another entrance? -noted. Hmm, can't see the image? If you want, you can view the direct link of that last layout here: Level Layout 2
waa, can't see the image
actually I did put another entrance to my map, but I don't care if it has to go for efficiency
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haymaker said:And here is the sketch I drew: (don't mind the pictures on the right side nor the misspelling of diagonal.)
Ah there we go thank you Riven.
Sample C looks like a pretty good start. They all work aesthetically too. I had wondered about putting Natus' off of the train station as they both could be the same building but it doesn't matter really.
Gameplay isn't really the focus here but it kinda looks like a CS layout, for sure you will be dead in the machine room or the hotdog-tunnel, it may be that one team will never see the other team's start. That is just conjecture really seeing as there's been no design for item placement. Maybe it's not bending the rules to move a few items around, eg there needs to be a big prize in the machinery room. With a little thought to power bases the whole thing could play out better.
If you rotated Natus 90 deg ccw the high exit could connect to the station entrance while the low one could connect to Riven, with a little T-intesection in that passage to a train platform.
If you rotated Redwood 90deg ccw you could connect the "door" exit to the other station entrance ( which is @ SE corner of the block in the pic atm, could be moved ) instead of to a train platform. Doing that would allow you to move Hotdog 2 to the west and shorten that tunnel to hotdog1 there.
The deleted train stop could be moved anywhere SW of hotdog2 with access in the hotdog1 to hotdog2 tunnel, making the circuit more even in terms of time on the train. ( I cant get Pshop to do what I want atm , a pic would be better I know )
Then again the original has its strong points too, making the train a little more useful. I was mainly concerned with relieving choke point pressure a bit, so all my comments are gameplay-based.
Two other perhaps redundant points, I don't see much for visblocking between maps, easy to address; and the train requires a ridiculous amount of room for a 90 deg turn, it's a wedge-shaped box with a selection footprint of 1200 by 1200 ( otherwise the train passes into the tunnel walls ).
Nice work so far everybody.
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hope everything is going good. NEED MORUH FEED BACKZ lol
-All areas have been imported and connected successfully without damage to entity origins and most overlays and decals (any that I can see). Some Brushes had to get cut-up in order to form much better 'render clusters' as I like to call them.Successful Changes:
-Aaron's map has SOO many static props, that I will be needing to add entire areaportalwindows just to cut off certain rooms (inside the skinny building) -so that they don't render when you're not in them. Hint brushes simply aren't enough here. Working on fade distances too. Fixed up func_details that were simply too large to help framerate. Simplified underlying bsp brushwork to accommodate Vis a little better. But like I said there will need to be more work done on it to bring it up to speeds with the rest of the maps.WIP Changes:
-Add in Zein's map comfortably and bring up to or beyond average FPS.Changes and goals to be met for Alpha 1 release:
-Add in train maps and support for train.Goals for future Beta release: