[map] ctf_fishy_b6

This is a a discussion topic for the map "ctf_fishy_b6" by fishy which can be found here

Map description:

A fairly typical ctf map, roughly the same size as 2fort. THis started off as my 1st attempt at mapping for tf2, but got shelved after the b4 release. That must have been at least a year ago, but I've managed to rekindle my interest in it recently.

Changes are mostly outside, which has been completely re-made into a much smaller area than before. Entrances/exits from the bases have been changed to suit the new exterior, but anyone that remembers the original builds will see that the internals of the bases are still much the same.
There's also a couple of extra routes that should help to cause fewer stalemates.

I know about the skybox being off centre, and looking daft, and about the couple of props that don't have any collisions on them. Other than that, I'd be glad to hear of any other problems that anyone finds.

filesize is about 11 mb.

Map screenshots:

Looks awesome, though I don't play tf2, I can see you've put lots of ideas to work here. Those cows are part of the stock package, or you made them? and the magazine? lol anyway.

If this was a dm map, in the first shot i would have suggested continue the upper level through that kink in the stairs, to create a short ledge. Then it could terminate at the end of the stair run and result in a parallel stair set. I like the composition of the 2nd shot but would benefit from -StaticPropPolys in expert lighting compile, for those pipes.

Nice job from the screens. Too bad i don't own the game

Funny you posted this now. I played a game on your Beta_4 version just 2 days ago.
The map looks good. no complaints there. I did see a few other issues though.
There definitely needs to me more heath and ammo pick ups. I was playing engineer and setting anything up was difficult. Setting a dispenser and getting enough metal to get a sentry up to level 2 takes forever with out a little help.
I was surprised by this but i was getting lost constantly in side the main bases. I'll learn, but others were having the same problem and not many people have any patients for custom maps.
People were getting confused because the flag is brought back to a place other than from where they took it. More than one person asked where they had to that the flag to.
I don't know if it was unique to the game i played but a lot of people went scout. The center area seemed to be well suited for them and slated against other classes. Maybe i should play more before commenting but for at least this game the scout had a easy time of diapering and circling around you. I like how visibility was relatively blocked so the sniper don't have it to easy but i wish i could see more of the area for the benefit of the other classes.

Were you going to keep the map name Fishy when u move out of beta?
Is the third pic a new area? Or an unreachable for atmosphere?

Keep going on it. I look forward to playing B_6

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haymaker, I made the cows for another mapper, but couldn't resist throwing them in behind some glass just for a laugh. There's a good chance that they'll get removed for the final release. L4D seems to have stolen a lot of players away from tf2 servers, but even so, it's still a great game to buy if you've got $20 to spare. The pipes, and a few other pros need to be tied to an info_ligting thingumy because they have their origins inside brushes atm.

Redwood, most of what you mentioned has been addressed in this build. More health and ammo can be found close to where angies will need it.
The thing about taking the flag to the battlements was how 2fort originally played in tfc, and I thought that people would 'get it' reasonably quick. That didn't seem to happen, so now you take the intel back to where your own is. The outside area was far too big before, which caused a lot of deathmatching, with not too many people managing to get to the enemy base. This meant the outside had to be completely remade to be a good deal smaller, and now looks just like the 3rd pic.
If I can come up with a suitable name, then I'll change it away from 'fishy', as there's nothing atm to connect the name to the theme.

Love, LOVE, LOVE! the Cows. Fishy is da man... looks good so far.

Muhnay said:
Love, LOVE, LOVE! the Cows.

show me a Texan that doesn't

I am a BULL not a Steer.

I loaded up b6 not long after i posted last but i just getting around to posting.
Wow, what a change. It's not even the same map.
It's a vary small map but all the spacing seem grate. The way the base is built into the hill was done vary well. I enjoyed it vary much. I'd like play a game on it so i can leave some decent feed back. If you know any servers running it please post the their ip addresses.

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Reality has become a commodity.