noob map maker

ok i got milkshape 3d and im interrested in makin my own map for Op4 or HL which ever where can i get a good guide for noob map makin, so far the most ive done is the odd model for startrek armada2, so i know how to use my map maker and texture, wot i need to know is spawning points for players an weapons, and hopfully how to set buttons an death traps as well as flowing water to push a player along.... need less to say for a noob im gonna throw my self in and pray, so any help would great, and if u can recomend any better program tht would be hot 2

First of all: If you are making a map for Opposing Force or Half-life
you don't use a modeling program. You use the Valve Hammer Editor.

Secondly: Take a good look at the tutorials on this site. They'll help you get on your way.

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Dystopia - Empires

I am looking at a member with an 800esque number...

You know, sometimes even the act of being a wise ass is too much effort.

Dude, this site is chock full of tutorials, not to mention the net has even more.

Start your search with "Setting up Hammer 3.5" then moving on to "Creating your first room"

After that, its child's play. If you can get those 2 sorted, everything else will just slide into place.

Good luck.

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The best things in life, aren't things.

Milkshape 3D isn't for making maps. It's for making models for games.(like guns, monsters...ect)

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Elon Yariv

See i knew i was doing somthing wrong lol ... cheers guys, if it turns out 2b any good once i finish it ill post it

It's good you learned how to model. It's always good to know how to do it then you can make really complex prefabs, more complex then you can ever do in hammer, and they wont damage the game's rendering speed alot.

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Elon Yariv

ok im half way through my new map, tho for some reason i can only add hl weapons not op4 :sad: but not important at the mo .... i cant run the map, every time i go to run it using F9 i get the cant find map on server error, ive set the save dir as maps in the hl folder ... but its still not picking it up :sad: so wot am i doing wrong ?

Maps should go to the modname\maps folder in HL folder. And the reason
why you can only add hl weapons is likely the fact that you are using
an .fgd file for hl instead of an opfor .fgd. Try checking your
preferences.

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''Everyone wades in s**t until they're competent enough to walk on it. Jesus style.''
Dystopia - Empires

noob question but where is the op4 fgd ? last time i looked i couldnt find it

Searching the Half-Life editing forum will help you with a lot of the problems you will run into, because they have been asked countless times. Just an FYI. Good luck in mapping.

I only wish that you had use the full 150x150 pixels for your avatar Snarkman. I'd like to have seen the rest of that breast. :heee:

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http://www.interlopers.net/index.php?page=downloads.htm

Interlopers has a link to some of the .fgd files, which includes the one you're looking for, darklord.

thanks, thts tht bit sorted and ive been about to run the level, and im quite pleased with my first effort. well i will b once i get my waterfuls to show up stop the water disapering when lookin at areas of the map

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wot kind of problem with the map would cause the level to crash with the error d_scalloc bad cache width -6576 .. forget tht it sorted its self out after i reloaded hammer ...

wots makes some of the textures like water disapear when playin the game ???

also wots the best method of making a fan ?