Diagonal measurements

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My new map is this: <br style="color: white;"><br style="color: white;">Here's what I have: <br style="color: white;"><br style="color: white;">My question is how do I get correct door measurements on walls that are diagonal?

Use trigonometry.

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Also change the texture of the dock. Docks are rarely tile. -Facepunch
As I Lay Dying

That map is going to be a real bitch to work on the whole way through. Your measurements will never come out right. I sagest that you rotate the base layout so that the larger right part is vertical. then the only angels you have to worry about are the left and right walls. the map wont change, just the way its laid out in hammer.

It can't be done. No matter how much I rotate the entirety of my map I can not get the other parts to become completely straight; they remain at an angle to some small degree.

make a temporary door the correct length, then rotate it to 'about' the angle you need it to be. Then guestimate the correct length of the cut out. I cant stress enough that you should try to keep things on the grid, even the largest grid at that. It'll really cut down on the head aches.

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Posting And You

f**k trigonometry. The best thing you can do is using identical ratios for the side lengths to keep the right angles correct (check out the latter part of this tutorial).

With Hammer, 90? corners are easy, everything else is a nightmare to keep under control. I sense great misery and tears of desperation.

But good luck, if you get it right it will certainly look more interesting than all the boring 90? maps out there. :biggrin:

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Why snark works.

If I were doing this map, I would create 90 degree templates of each type of door and doorframe I wanted in the map, and keep copies of them somewhere out in the void. These would have completed brushwork, properly textured, etc.

Then, I would shift-drag copies into the map and rotate them to fit as close to the walls as possible. Then I would zoom in and use vertex manipulation to make all the joins line up. They shouldn't be out by more than a couple of units, and the player isn't going to notice this.

I would also try to make the wall diagonals regular to some observable degree. For example, in the hexagonal room on the left, I would make the diagonal lines go across-15-units down-26-units (or whatever is close to your angle). That way you get more points along a line that fall exactly on grid line crossovers, and this keeps things a bit happier when you come to use the clipping tool.

The entry/laundry I would probably do entirely at 90 degrees, then slide in a copy and rotate it for the final step. With a little vertex manipulation to make it fit, hopefully affecting only the thickness of the walls.

Good luck! :smile:

Heh, good luck not getting any of those portal leafs saw into cluster errors with diagonal portals :razz:

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If I were doing this map, I would not make perfect geometric shapes,
but rather tweak the design marginally to give me angles with nice
slopes. 60 degrees is useless to me, but a wall that has a slope
of 2 is great to work with. This is kind of like what Dr. Frag
said, but 15/26 is not a nice enough slope. 15/25 for example,
works out even better, as that reduces to 3/5.

Also, I would rotate the entire map so that your entryway is on the
x-axis. It just seems sensible to me (since it won't matter once
in game) to align your map so that you have the most doors possible
parralel with an axis. Currently, only two of your doors are
easy, the master bedroom outside door and the master bathroom shower
door. If you rotate as I suggested, the front door, the pantry
door, the three doors in the laundry and the six in the entryway become
easy.

Cash Car Star said:
This is kind of like what Dr. Frag said, but 15/26 is not a nice enough slope. 15/25 for example, works out even better, as that reduces to 3/5.

/smacks forehead

Of course! Why didn't I see that?