Far Cry, again

You gotta see what this game can do. I am running everything on very high resolution settings, but cannot enable AA due to graphics conflicts. I am only posting links cause they are 1024 x 728, but I dont want to lose anything in translation:

http://www.hotdeathdiner.com/images/fc1.jpg

http://www.hotdeathdiner.com/images/fc2.jpg

http://www.hotdeathdiner.com/images/fc3.jpg

http://www.hotdeathdiner.com/images/fc5.jpg

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http://www.hotdeathdiner.com/images/fc11.jpg

This demo amazes me and if you have broadband you should check it out (500 mb file ya know). Everything you see here is a realistic part of the environment. The trees, plants, grass, all sway in the wind, and the water reflects everything(including youself!). Definitely a graphics bohemith, but worth the download.

In the immortal words of Tyler Durden, sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken, and likewise something with a high polygon count does not equal something beautiful.

It won't load for me. :sad:

I found Far Cry to look rather nice, not realistic, but nice nonetheless. However The visual quality (And I mean quality quite literally as in polys) is astounding, but it doesn't make up for the gameplay. I just find it annoying that Aiming while standing doesn't do much. Or that a hand gun is more accurate then a sniper rifle, not many people shake if they're laying on the ground holding a rifle . . I really think the scope can move slightly without you doing anything, but for it to sway and crap like it does in Far Cry is rediculous, it should be dependant on the mouse movements, but it obviously isn't . . . this happens in a lot of games to make the weapon "fare", if they want it to be fair, make all the other weapons realistic and it will be. Ah . . . but no one will listen to my suggestions. Anyway, Far Cry just seems to be some big ass eyecandy, and The textures are a little flawed in my opinion, they just . . . don't look right.

It really is kind of pathetic. Fairly nice engine, s**tty level/texture design.

I find it much more impressive to combine gameplay, look and efficiency (examples that you actually understand the game engine and can push it to limits without disrupting the game.)

mmm got this game at a lan today :smile:

I love the graphics engine, but I agree the "realism" of the game leaves much to be desired... The weapons accuracies are indeed offputting, considering spamming with a P90 SMG at any range seems to be more effective than a well placed Desert Eagle shot. I love the level of interactivity in the game. Me and my friends had hours of fun playing with the objects in the world, with the ragdoll physics :biggrin:

I'm looking forward to this game :smile:

Hopefully by the time they release the full game they will have fixed some of the view bugs / AI bugs.

I ran the game on 1280x1024x32 with all the settings at Very High and didn't notice any lag at all. I run my card with AA x 6 .

Note: Shoot the chain the holds up the dead shark, and roll it into the water. It makes a great raft :razz:

What is with all the new games? do they try to make the world look like it is made out of plastic? and don't they realize that mountainous turrain is NOT smooth? in many ways I think good old HL is more realistic in appearence than most of the newer games. the emphisis on smooth curves makes everything look wrong.

Dunno, man. I think Call of Duty did a fine job though. And in all honesty, I really think the terrain in Halo looks wonderful, the guns are a different matter lol. As for games that are coming out I don't think the developers really want to make the terrains realistic looking, simply because (take Far Cry for example) They want to use those polys for other things, like water and plants. If they made the terrain amazingly realistic everything else would be compromised, thus the trade off. HL has the ability for some really nice rock terrains, but as we all know, the texture actually has A LOT to do with the way something looks, it can give the illusion of many things, so, it seems, they should adjust their textures accordingly, instead of going back and redo-ing half of the games level designs. (Although it would help.)

ATM i am in a rush and cannot comment on the game, except to say that CoD looks better, but that doesn't retract from the beauty of these shots tho, i find the plasticness of them to be nice personally.

but i do feel it is my obligation to say that 700+k jpg's is just..... well you know :/

the links and the warning do help, honest they do, but on 56k? MINUTES TO DOWNLOAD GUYS, MINUTES!

/ rant :biggrin:

It certainly looks nice, but it doesn't make up for the ridiculous difficulty. And the jeep on that level feels incredibly useless.

oooer me and my friend just completed it by just using knife and rocks ^_^

sif the jeep is useless, the jeep is teh pwnz0r !!! go back to driving school, newb :razz:

...no really, there's no use for it at all...it's just there...

Kage_Prototype said:
...no really, there's no use for it at all...it's just there...

...said the little girl, to the little boy, the first time they played doctor...........

/me backs away from Orpheus slowly

:razz:

And I suppose you know that from experience, Orpheus?

/runz :razz:

On one hand, the plants and terrain look good if you ignore the cartoony, high reflective nature of them. The gameplay looks different with all the outdoors stuff.

On the other hand, the over-shinyness of everything looks like crap (or Doom 3) and looks less realistic and convincing than Toy Story. The overbrightening of the graphics makes the fancy foliage pointless as well because it sure seems like it would be simple to pick out the bad guys from the trees.

In short, Ghost Recon pulled off the forest/jungle themes better and a few years ago. :razz:

HI_Jungle was better, FFS.

The forest has been an HL mapper's dream for a long time, but just play HI_Columbia - probably the one map to successfully execute the ideal forest, and it's terribly hard to play in because you can't see s**t.

I don't know if that rings true for this game, though.

hahahah my friend with his Radeon 9800 XL (A card made by a Germn company, supposed to be between a Radeon 9800 and a 9800 Pro) played the game fine like mine, until after about 3 hours of playing it, when it got MASSIVE ARTIFACTS. All the models had black blobs around the outside, and even OGC couldn't have made a better wallhack than we had. I think it was his card overheating, does anyone else know? It couldn't have been the demo itself. Also my other friend's Geforce 4 Ti 4200 after playing for about 2 hours on medium level graphics was getting artifacts, ie. the sky brush and anything more than 20 metres away becoming massive blobs.

They're probably overclocked at too high of a rate. They'd overheat no matter what game they were playing (as long as the game demanded all the resources) while they were overclocked. There's usually two options, play your games at lower rates and de-overclock the card or get a bigger fan lol.

I'm running the same card as the latter friend, I have it barley overclocked though, since it's fan isn't very reliable past 110% (or so).

just finished downloading it on 56k :biggrin: same crits as the rest of u , but also liked the nice details like leafs shadows on ur gun creating nice dappling effects and shooting dead people is also pretty :smile:

Looks pretty, plays s**tty.

(Dave original) :biggrin:

Well Orph says he likes Call of Duty for better imagery, so heres a few screenies of that game which I am currently playing for the second time through.:



Heres the dam from the British campaign and also,

some nice architecture from the Russian campaign,



A shot from inside the entrance to the train station.



Heres a really cool moment where you have to sprint across a field before the bombers do you in.The rendering distances of this engine are impressive with a strong enough rig and all the attributes cranked up to their highest settings. I would agree with Orph that this is a fantastic looking game. I also am in awe of Unreal II for some of it's graphics achievements. My point is simple. This stuff is getting better and better all the time and Far cry is definitely state of the art technologically. Not the greatest game ever but definitely worth a look around to be sure.

drools goddammit Call of Duty kicks ass :biggrin:

Juim said:

What the hell kind of material breaks like that? (see roof)

I know I'm using up bandwidth here, and that this is a HL site, but just to keep the thread interesting , heres some pics of my other current favorite Unreal 2.:



Some typical Unreal-ish architecture. Great lighting here though.



The beginning of one of the middle levels. Your ship sets down here at the start.



A console from the mother ship. Crispy texture indeed.



another dam shot.......dammit. Nice level detail here, although this shot does'nt do the water justice.



Just a boardroom from one of the last levels. The professor in the shot has on a reflective lycra jumpsuit of some sort which looks great at the higher settings.How about some others of you posting screenies of your latest favorite games. Kinda will help kill some more time waiting for HL2!

Oh, btw, for anybody who does'nt know, they released a multiplayer free add-on for unreal 2. It's pretty damn nice too.

Juim said:


another dam shot.......dammit. Nice level detail here, although this shot does'nt do the water justice.

Oh, btw, for anybody who does'nt know, they released a multiplayer free add-on for unreal 2. It's pretty damn nice too.

don't worry, i posted multiple shots of that waterfall months ago, it was awesome whan i looked at it too..

and yeah guys, a multiplayer addon is out and cool as s**t.

Juim said:
How about some others of you posting screenies of your latest favorite games.

Someone forgot to bring all their game CDs back to Uni :smile:

:sad:

^^^points up^^^

the best damned DM map ever created for HL

Yah, and not a round brush in the whole thing. Static skies, repetetive texturing, and still a great map. Goes to show the difference between style and substance.

It's sad to think that it still trumps all FPS comers. Sure it doesn't look too pretty in comparison to the newest engines, but it plays so much better. It's hard to believe that after so long it hasn't been trumped. (and I am ignoring all the mods in this sentence, no FPS has been able to beat the HLDM and HLSP combo, period.)

Then again maybe I need to play this Call of Duty game everyone's talking about. Course I'm afraid I'll get burned on this one just like I was with BF1942. Such a wasted opportunity, which sadly can be said about many recent FPSs.

UT2003, UC, Halo, Quake 4 preemptively, Agent Under Fire/Nightfire/insert Bond game here, BF1942, Medal of Honor, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Morrowind (doesn't count I know)...

If you didn't like Medal Of Honor, then you most likely wont like Call of Duty, Infinity Ward, the group who made the game, came from the Medal Of Honor team. In my personal opinion I think Call of Duty is better then Medal Of Honor, in general, but damn Spearhead was awesome, it was way better then Allied Assult and Breakthrough, I'm not sure why, but it was. As for saying HL is better, I don't agree, I don't think they can really be compared. HL wasn't meant to be a realistic game, Medal of Honor is trying to be realistic, just as Call of Duty is trying to be more realistic. As for the Quake series, their point is to be as unrealistic as possible, it seems. It all depends on your tastes. I Like most of the FPSers that are coming out, They're all pretty damn fun. Although it did take awhile for me to accomodate a taste for MOHAA, I loved it once I actually played through it. I think the reason why is that it takes patience, where as HL doesn't, HL, you run and shoot, which kicks ass, but A lot of times I like a little more stragity, or to take some more time, with MOHAA and most parts of COD, you have to do this, because you'll simply get shot to holy hell if you don't and I like that. But that's just me.

However, HL is the most dynamic FPS that's come out to date. Most other FPS aren't really made abundantly clear of how to really edit them, HL has plenty of documentation, as well as an editor that practically any level of designer can use.

Anyway, I'm babbling, so I'll stop.

Oh, I was gonna slap some screenshots of Postal 2 up here, but the damn thing doesn't have a screenshot button and if I use print screen it only copies the map, the sprites aren't copied at all :sad:

I'm curious, what about stalkyard makes it the best HLDM map ever? I never liked it that much. it's just a doughnut filled with boxes as far as I can see.

Tracer Bullet said:
I'm curious, what about stalkyard makes it the best HLDM map ever? I never liked it that much. it's just a doughnut filled with boxes as far as I can see.

1) its cluttered yet not full or obstructed.

2) it can accommodate 10+ people, yet play awesomely with only 2.

3) weapons are sparse enuff to make you move around, yet plentiful enuff to keep 10 fraggers stocked.

4) its connected every which-a-way

5) it shows that stock textures work.

6) everyone has it.

7) it has vertical play.

8} no stupid weapons exist.

9) its small, yet has you running all day.

i used the playability of stalkyard as a base for my map no_patience, and tried to incorporate everything i just mentioned into its creation.

tis why, IMO that N_P is such a success story, i have seen very few maps with the quality of stalk_yard, or No_Patience, in almost 5 years, and 1000's of maps

don't misunderstand, i have seen far superior maps to mine, but for completely different reasons, many of which stem from my inability to see my own works in a favorable light..

Yak_Fighter said:
Quake 4 preemptively...

Mmmm I wouldn't pre-empt this at all, I have a feeling it's going to be a pretty awesome sci-fi romp :smile: