Is it just me?

Is it just me?

Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:13pm
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I look around at the world.  I see wireframes of the walls, doors, and items.  I see trigger brushes in front of the automated doors at the food store.  I see multimanagers at work when I turn on my computer.  light_environment outside and light_spot on the front of my car.  I wonder how high the r speeds are in my house.  I see the face spliting comming from the legs of my furniture.  I see a env_fade when I wake up in the morning, a env_shake when the earth trembles.  Path_corners when I take the elevator or the bus.

/me must be crazy.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:19pm
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Happens to me, too. However its not half-life related :rolleyes:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:20pm
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its just you..

 

but, i am looking around as i travel, and see potential maps, that couldn't be made with HL1..

i am getting antzy.. i wanna see if HL2 can cope with my new ideas..

there is a waste treatment plant/facility across the road from my home.. it will be the model for my first HL2 map..
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Cassius on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:29pm
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Texture artists get those wierd subliminal things too.

 - You can see fake marble from a mile away.

 - Anything that repeats looks amazingly ugly.

 - You start seeing the transparent blue on a line of trees (only when you make yourself, though)

 - You take your digital camera around like it's your baby.

 - Kentucky starts looking very, very ugly, and Hawaii is God's land. (Probably just me.)

 - You wish you had more rusted/oxodized/urban stuff around where you lived so you could take reference pictures.

 - You start to see the world in the style of your texturing (happens to me, what that means is up to you)

 - Suddenly, half of the games on the market look terrible.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:34pm
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Cassius said:
Texture artists get those wierd subliminal things too.

 - You can see fake marble from a mile away.

 - Anything that repeats looks amazingly ugly.

 - You start seeing the transparent blue on a line of trees (only when you make yourself, though)

 - You take your digital camera around like it's your baby.

 - Kentucky starts looking very, very ugly, and Hawaii is God's land. (Probably just me.)

 - You wish you had more rusted/oxodized/urban stuff around where you lived so you could take reference pictures.

 - You start to see the world in the style of your texturing (happens to me, what that means is up to you)

 - Suddenly, half of the games on the market look terrible.
i was genuinely appalled at the blatant errors in JK and JK2, not to mention quite a few other games released since HL in 98..

more from a mapping standpoint than a texture one, but i know exactly how you feel..

about the only new game i was surprised about "looking" great was U2... the maps were awesome.. the textures were excellently incorporated as well...

if you can overlook the simplicity of the objectives, and the relatively short duration of its play, U2 has some interesting maps..
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:35pm
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I wonder what the coders and the modelers see.  Lines of codes for the former and polys on their friends for the ladder perhaps.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:36pm
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Wild Card said:
I wonder what the coders and the modelers see.  Lines of codes for the former and polys on their friends for the ladder perhaps.
They see the Matrix!! THE MARTIX!!!!!
Re: Is it just me? Posted by R@lph VViggum on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:42pm
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3 years of mapping, makes you look at reality in a way different perspective. Anytime I see something for the first time, I think how I can put that into a game. You can get mapping inspiration from anything almost.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:47pm
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R@lph VViggum said:
3 years of mapping, makes you look at reality in a way different perspective. Anytime I see something for the first time, I think how I can put that into a game. You can get mapping inspiration from anything almost.
yeah i know whatch'a mean, i touched myself last night and thought" the leaning tower of pisa would make a great "king of the hill" map
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:49pm
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Orpheus said:
R@lph VViggum said:
3 years of mapping, makes you look at reality in a way different perspective. Anytime I see something for the first time, I think how I can put that into a game. You can get mapping inspiration from anything almost.
yeah i know whatch'a mean, i touched myself last night and thought" the leaning tower of pisa would make a great "king of the hill" map
Eeewwwww!!!!!!!!
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:50pm
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Orpheus said:
R@lph VViggum said:
3 years of mapping, makes you look at reality in a way different perspective. Anytime I see something for the first time, I think how I can put that into a game. You can get mapping inspiration from anything almost.
yeah i know whatch'a mean, i touched myself last night and thought" the leaning tower of pisa would make a great "king of the hill" map
Why do you always have to add that in? :lol:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Monqui on Sat Sep 20th 2003 at 11:55pm
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I wonder what the coders and the modelers see. Lines of codes for the former and polys on their friends for the ladder perhaps.
Thats pretty weird- just today I was trying to figgure out how I would go about quantifying the sandwich I was eating into a class hierarchy. I started with the bread, and wondered if I should start with the Toast as an object, or the bread itself as an object that had properties of Toast, or break it down into grains, eggs, butter, etc. Would you then break those down into various other components (Lettuce, cheese, ham, vinegar, oil)?

Stupid object oriented languages :/
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:00am
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Wild Card said:
Orpheus said:
R@lph VViggum said:
3 years of mapping, makes you look at reality in a way different perspective. Anytime I see something for the first time, I think how I can put that into a game. You can get mapping inspiration from anything almost.
yeah i know whatch'a mean, i touched myself last night and thought" the leaning tower of pisa would make a great "king of the hill" map
Why do you always have to add that in? :lol:
you highlighted the wrong part silly, the funny portion was the second half :rofl:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:01am
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bread.enabled:=true;

procedure toast;
begin
     bread.insert.into.toaster;
     toastertimer.set.30seconds;
     run;
end;
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:02am
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Orpheus said:
Wild Card said:
Orpheus said:
R@lph VViggum said:
3 years of mapping, makes you look at reality in a way different perspective. Anytime I see something for the first time, I think how I can put that into a game. You can get mapping inspiration from anything almost.
yeah i know whatch'a mean, i touched myself last night and thought" the leaning tower of pisa would make a great "king of the hill" map
Why do you always have to add that in? :lol:
you highlighted the wrong part silly, the funny portion was the second half :rofl:
both I find are equal.  The Orph trademark.  Rated Mature :lol:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by R@lph VViggum on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:03am
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Whatever gives you inspiration, whatever works.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:07am
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/me recommends:

Find youreself a sheep Orph :razz:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:09am
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R@lph VViggum said:
Everyone masturbate, stop lying to yourself. If they don't, they're "weird."

Whatever gives you inspiration, whatever works.
actually, and this kinda retracts from the joke..

i was thinking of the "peeing" process, and the relationship of old genitalia and the pisa structure's orientation to horizontal :biggrin:

masterbation being inspirational to mapping.... oh yeah i see, both are short lived projects :heee:

/runs
Re: Is it just me? Posted by R@lph VViggum on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:11am
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haha
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Kapten Ljusdal on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:15am
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Orpheus said:
masterbation being inspirational to mapping...

 
...ages of hard work and the result is rather unsatisfying

no?
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:44am
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Stands on desk

Sex Ed and level design.  2 totaly different things unite.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by DesPlesda on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 2:47am
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Wild Card said:
I wonder what the coders and the modelers see.  Lines of codes for the former and polys on their friends for the ladder perhaps.
I see classes where any sort of manufactured object is present (class pen: public plastic, ink {...), and I don't see the matrix. I try and work out RBG hex values when I see a painting, and wonder what sort of video card would be needed to render whatever scene I'm looking at. Whenever anything does anything I unconsciously think of exactly how it would work in assembler, and I daydream about how the Half-Life teleportation system would work if it was real (I reckon it's some sort of displacement field effect).
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Sinner_D on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 2:52am
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dont fret dude, i have that same problem...ill be drivin somewhere and see somethin and go "hey, that would be a great CS map" lol. it can be annoying at times, but you'll get use to it. hahaha

as for the seeing wireframe and stuff, meh thinks u got a wallhack, bad DesPlesda, BAD :lol:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 3:03am
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i wonder, whats the percentages of realife structures and maps...

 

i mean would real life places make better CS maps? TFC ones, or DM...
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 6:40am
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I get it too. my friends think I'm crazy, because sometimes my mapping thoughts are out loud. you know like "wow, this would make a great DM, but the r's...." you get the idea.

I think most maps are probably inspired by real would places, but in general, rendering a real environment does not make for a good map. real buildings are too cramped, have too many dead ends, are too boring. the firest map I ever did was one of my house. it's fun to play on my home lan, because everyone recognizes the setting and enjoys it, but honestly, the gameplay isn't great.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Gollum on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 10:17am
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Orpheus said:
masterbation being inspirational to mapping.... oh yeah i see, both are short lived projects :heee:

/runs
/me points to Gmdm2 :kitty:

Ahem
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 10:56am
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Gollum said:
Orpheus said:
masturbation being inspirational to mapping.... oh yeah i see, both are short lived projects :heee:

/runs
/me points to Gmdm2 :kitty:

Ahem
unless you are admitting that GMDM2 was "conceived" <--- excuse the pun .... in your throes of masturbation, and that you are admitting to a 4 year orgasm, i doubt very much you and i are talking about the same thing :smile:

(read between the lines of my post silly)
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Gollum on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 11:10am
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You credit me with too much cleverness.  It was just a throw-away joke :biggrin:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Vash on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 11:25am
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Believe me man, not one day goes by that Im sitting in class and looking at the walls and going: "Half-life has a few of these textures."
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Schmung on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 12:01pm
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Same here. I map and model and I keep wandering around thinking to myself, 'Damn, that would be ace in TS, you could dive off that and into there, hmm r_speeds would be hell though, maybe if I moved THAT pillar over THERE' and so and so for forth. I've been mapping for ages on and off, but over the last year I've been doing it on a fairly constant basis. Now I've gone off on a modelling spree I keep seeing things and wondering what would be the best way to retain the shape of an object whilst keeping the plys low. I spent 5 minutes starting at the bonnet of a Sierra the other day overlaying triangles onto it in my brain.

I keep wishing I had a digi cam to take photos, 'cos I have a terrible memory. The lecture hall in Fauclty is very similar indeed to the one I used throughout most of last year in uni, right down to the textures and the tables at the bottom. Last time I was in there I had a terrible urge to dive off of the top level firing at an imaginary person who was hiding behid the lectern.

I think I might be playing that game a little too much.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by xconspirisist on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 1:22pm
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My first map for half life 2 ? hmm, a box, 4012 units wide, deep and tall, with the buggy that has the mounted machine gun. Hey, I could call it ... a ' kill box ' :lol:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by GrimlocK on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 5:03pm
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xconspirisist said:
My first map for half life 2 ? hmm, a box, 4012 units wide, deep and tall, with the buggy that has the mounted machine gun. Hey, I could call it ... a ' kill box ' :lol:
Good name since you'll be Killed and shuved in a box by your fellow Snark pit posters :razz:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by GrimlocK on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 5:10pm
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(on the topic)

Personally I don't see lines and grids and what not, I could, and have at times (To figure out how to translate it to 3-d) but I focus on grapsing the essence of things, what is it that makes something as it is, what is most important about its features, break it down and disect it.

To see, identify, describe and recreate, SIDR or "cider", by focusing on the essence you arn't limiting what medium your experiences can be translated to.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 5:14pm
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xconspirisist said:
My first map for half life 2 ? hmm, a box, 4012 units wide, deep and tall, with the buggy that has the mounted machine gun. Hey, I could call it ... a ' kill box ' :lol:
i think, since its virtually impossible to make a decent killbox map anyways, that someone should redefine the concept of "killbox"

 

why not create a map, that has boxes in it that kill when varying methods are employed... some detonate with bullets, some like proximity mines.. some delayed fuses, and others you can pick up and toss at people..

that would be much more fun than some mindless box full of items with the same name..

only stupid, or limited intelligence people derive pleasure from traditionally made killbox maps.. :sad:
Re: Is it just me? Posted by KoRnFlakes on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 5:58pm
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not really orph m8, That cs map I was sodding about with in the editing help thread is pretty much a killbox & thats good fun.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Orpheus on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 6:11pm
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KoRnFlakes said:
not really orph m8, That cs map I was sodding about with in the editing help thread is pretty much a killbox & thats good fun.
you may need to understand, its in definition..

my idea .. killbox = hollow cube with scattering of ramps or lifts..

others may deem an arena a killbox, i do not..

if a map consists of more items than solids its prolly a killbox and its s**t..

arenas are not killboxes.. still if you are in doubt, we could post some pics of what is or is not a killbox..

but in the end.. killbox = stupid
Re: Is it just me? Posted by KoRnFlakes on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 6:14pm
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heh fair 'uff.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by xconspirisist on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 8:43pm
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Snarkpit mapping competition orph - thats a wicked idea....

/ me maps
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 8:54pm
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Orpheus said:
why not create a map, that has boxes in it that kill when varying methods are employed... some detonate with bullets, some like proximity mines.. some delayed fuses, and others you can pick up and toss at people..
Is this a chalenge you are starting?
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Cassius on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 11:12pm
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"4 year orgasm"

Hell, I'm working on it.
Re: Is it just me? Posted by Wild Card on Sun Sep 21st 2003 at 11:23pm
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