Internet Explorer

My IE will only let me save images as BMP. What gives?! It's done it before and the only way I managed to fix it was install the Service Pack 2 - and now it has gone and done it again.

Anybody know an easy way to fix this without messing about re-installing stuff? :smile:

Clear your temporary internet files, with the built-in function or with

www.ccleaner.com (the best freeware cleaner around.)

Adam, you should use Firefox. Everybody should use Firefox.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

If you haven't (I guess you haven't since you're using IE), at least give it a try. :smile:

Go kick every one on the IE development team in the balls ...
To be honest, you shouldn't have to change browsers or anything as such, but I'd strongly recommend it. (In my personal opinion, I like Mozilla more then the the firefox betas).

There are so many holes in IE, where each individual one maybe rather harmless, combinations of holes is very dangerous, allowing people to access things on your computer through IE.

As for this specific problem, I honestly don't know, try getting some virus protector, becuase that's the cause, unless IE just flipped out on its own. I suppose try looking on Microsoft's site for a fix... but don't expect it to be plentiful or easy to find.

I didn't even know that there were a browser called Mozilla... I bet Mozilla i good aswell, just don't use IE

Browsing too much pr0n again Adam? :razz: Happens sometimes when you fill up your temp internet files, for some reason, and it can also stop you from viewing page sources.

And to be honest, I can't imagine that Mozilla is much safer than IE, just that not so many people are tempted to find security problems with it. Regardless of browser, get yourself a decent firewall and virus scanner, and have a modicum of common sense, and you should be fine.

Cheers guys! Problem sorted :smile: Guess I need to empty my temp folder even more often...stupid Microsoft!

And I have a decent firewall and virus software so I know that's not the problem. Obviously I need to cut down on the pr0n :wink:

Firefox - 'nuff said. Always use it and it's never failed me yet.

I'm also firmly in the Firefox camp. Mmmmmm....tabbed window goodness...

Let's not start a Firefox vs. IE war again ... Adam's question has been answered, now leave it, you silly fan-monkeys !

I'm honestly not being a fan boy, there are several holes in IE that are more dangerous in combination then holes in any other browser. There are several differences, and it isn't just summed up to "IE is used by more people = more attacked", that may be a big part, but there are many other flaws that are incredibly detrimental.

Anyway, I just pointed out that it isn't a good idea to use it right now.
Let's say even if it is only being attacked because it's the most used browser; why would you continue to use the most vulnerable to attack browser? That point alone would make it less ?secure? if you really want to get down and dirty in the subject. Call it personal choice if you feel like it, but just remember, you're probably wrong.

[Note: This post isn't here to instigate anyone, I'm just stating the obviousness of the situation.]

You may continue to use it as you think you've taken adequate precautions otherwise to something which is very unlikely to happen to you, and are not stupid enough to fall for phishing scams etc. I've never ever had a serious problem with IE, and seeing that I don't really like Mozilla much for some reason, I won't change until I feel I have to or I have a decent other reason to change :/ I must admit it's getting better, though I'd quite interested to see if Google is developing it's own browser (and thus furthering it's control over the whole world )

I have to agree with Leperous...i've had no major problems with IE, just the occasional annoying glitch. In fact, the problem I brought up as the whole point of this thread is the only beef I have with IE. Other than that I find it quite agreeable.

I've been driving manual for years and years, I don't see why I should switch to automatic just cos I stalled once or twice :wink:

Are you suggesting IE is manual and mozilla is automatic ... sorry, I believe it would be the other way around :smile: (Not to mention those are two out of hundreds of browsers)

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The other thing is, I'm talking about IE on Windows. Any of the ports which have been adapted to a new OS or something as such, work fine, they just have different algorithms. The REAL problem is, IE is one of the only browsers which can allow remote access to administrative rights on a Windows machine. Granted, any browser can do this, but unless you ignore every warning in all browsers, or you have IE on one of the highest security ratings, it can do this without you knowing.

As well, if you're using a fairly popular brand firewall or virus scanner, they can be bypassed, or told with administrative rights to ignore a file or two.
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Heh, what i'm trying to say is i've been using IE for a long time now..i'm kinda used to its quirks and perks so changing to a different browser doesn't really make sense now. I don't have anything against alternative browsers - i'm sure they all have their own benefits, but would I use them?

Heh, what i'm trying to say is i've been using IE for a long time now..i'm kinda used to its quirks and perks so changing to a different browser doesn't really make sense now. I don't have anything against alternative browsers - i'm sure they all have their own benefits, but would I use them?

I don't know. I'm not saying, "Hey, take the only browser you've ever used and toss it out the window". Why don't you download Mozilla, Netscape, Firefox, or whatever, and see if you like it or not. It wont effect anything you have in IE or anything like that. And, if you need to comfort of it looking like IE, almost every browser has an IE imitation skin makes the browser look identical except the loading icon.

I've noticed over time that Microsoft, as with many things, made up their own standards for things they didn't like, and just to let you know that is NOT okay. Coming from a developer standpoint in any language that kind of crap really pisses me off. In light of doing web development, I can't stand IE. I think the only reason why Lep loves it so much is because it's probably the first browser he ever used and he liked it, and there's nothing wrong with that, I'm not saying you wanting to use it is bad, just as long as you realize what's going on. There are several standardized things that work in every browser except IE. MS chooses to ignore certain style types and properties. As well, IE lets things slide.

I'm sorry, the browser doesn't cut it for me. And on top of being a standard compliant browser, Mozilla has several other programs built in: A mail client (which is far more secure then Outlook. If you get a virus through email it Mozilla doesn't allow it to send its self to everyone in your address book like outlook does.) A IRC client, granted most people like mIRC, I like the text only interface.

The option is up to any one person, All I'm saying is there are things you're unaware of.
And honestly, you can't say IE is just as secure, more secure, or less secure, because you can't look at the code, you can for most other browsers (since they're open). But, You can tell that it isn't a good idea to have your browser linked to administrative settings.

And now several people will probably post after this, ?They don't need to know? and some other crap. But, you know, that kind of thinking propagated so many unhealthy situations. (No, I'm not saying Snarkpit will turn into WWIII)

Anyway, whatever, make your own choice, see which you like more.

I don't know. I'm not saying, "Hey,
take the only browser you've ever used and toss it out the window". Why
don't you download Mozilla, Netscape, Firefox, or whatever, and see if
you like it or not. It wont effect anything you have in IE or anything
like that.

I agree, just give it a try, if you already haven't :smile:

I think the only reason why Lep loves it so much is because it's probably the first browser he ever used and he liked it, and there's nothing wrong with that, I'm not saying you wanting to use it is bad, just as long as you realize what's going on.

Apart from the fact that IE loads up at least twice as fast as Mozilla on my PC, it's true that to me there's nothing much else to distinguish between them. You also say "there are several standardized things that work in every browser except IE"; such as? Transparent PNGs don't work, but what else? I've noticed that coloured scroll bars don't work in Mozilla, and that Mozilla is the only other browser with any kind of rich text editor built in- the wysiwyg editor used by these forums- and it's still utter crap!

If you get a virus through email it Mozilla doesn't allow it to send its self to everyone in your address book like outlook does

No, because the virus is tailored to look at Outlook's address book... Are you telling me you can't make a Thunderbird-address-stealing virus, with a built in mailing engine?!

Anyway, despite this I do agree with one point- "make your own choice, see which you like more" ! :smile: It is a pain that browsers are not all standardised with their website displaying, but you can't say that IE is the only browser responsible for that... (my biggest pain right now is Safari's problem with fieldset tags)

No, you can write a virus to do anything you like, what I was saying was the same virus is not likely to effect both outlook and Mozilla/Thunderbird.

The colorized scroll bar was made up by MS for IE. It's that kind of crap that I'm talking about.

CSS tags have a tendency to not work properly in IE, such as using right, left attribute with certain CSS properties. I have site examples.

IE takes an extra pixel around the top and left hand side of the screen, mis aligning items.

Among these it executes NON IE code, when it shouldn't.

IE loads faster then Mozilla on your computer because IE is always running. Its built into the OS. If you had Mozilla running in the background it would come up just as fast instead of staying uninitialized until called upon and having room made for it in memory and such.

There are s**t effects that are IE only because MS decided that the DOM didn't support enough features.

So, please, get off of that aspect of saying IE isn't breaking any standards (Or anything as such); you can't say, 'The standards are bull' or anything as such either, because W3 made up the basic languages we all use for web development (as well as continually manage them), unless you're using .NET for some insane reason, then sin your heart out.

Amongst all these things, I don't like the algorithms MS uses in IE.

Is that enough to justify my points? :smile:

me primes the strait jacket for fundamentalist nutter Crono

i've got my eye on you, zealot boy! :razz: and here we were thinking it wasnt going to turn into an IE / Mozilla war again :razz:

It isn't and hasn't, just seems often when I speak someone questions me, so I have to explain further.

I tried kept to the point and answered all the questions in a peaceful manner ... I'm not getting outraged or upset if that's what you're insinuating.

I was joking man :wink:

Jeez, where do I get the reputation as ultra harsh admin
:razz: just because my name is green doesnt mean every comment i make is to
break up flames :biggrin: *me wears daisies chains and passes peace pipe
around to get good vibes*

Well, since I'm using IE with Windows there's no need to change because of those reasons, eh :biggrin: There's nothing wrong with adding new features to your browser either!

hides from sharp point brick-wrath of Crono :razz:

Hey don't leave me out! I can throw the bricks with 'die IE' written on them in red just as well as Crono! :heee:

Ok, first, IE is built in to the OS and loads on startup, and yet firefox still loads significantly faster than IE on my machine.

Second, email clients are a different issue than browsers. Mozilla's email client may be a billion times better than outlook, but that says nothing about mozilla vs IE as browser. Invalid argument tactic.

Soon, my bricks will not only be blunt ... but they'll give you herpies. I've genetically engineered them to be different. How do you like people changing the standards now? :razz:

Links, fewls, Links. Images are for chumps.

mozilla is great, plus you dont get annoying popups all the time, no silly adware toolbars.

Also, i highliy reccomend getting the new java version. this time, it tells you if there is something trying to exploit a microsoft virtual machine (microsuck java) bug. and it wont let it through :biggrin:

mazemaster said:
Ok, first, IE is built in to the OS and loads on startup, and yet firefox still loads significantly faster than IE on my machine.

funny, i have noticed the exact opposite.. can it be a setting master maze? i am not siding here, yes i prefer IE, but not so much as to promote it ABOVE any other browser.. i am just more comfortable is all.. i have firefox installed, and use it occasionally.. if you want gripes.. i absolutely hate netscape, it loads slow, and always makes my use my passwords, it never remembers them.. plus.. its ugly as hell.

why can't people just accept that the browser will be used and proceed.. this browser war is even more inane than the killbox one we have periodically :rolleyes: