CS 1.6

CS 1.6

Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 8:22am
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with the new release of counter-strike 1.6 i realized its time to update my fgd...anyone know a good site for an expert CS1.6 fgd?
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 10:13am
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Why would there be a new fgd? CS hasn't changed it's entities since beta 6.5 when some of the es_ entities were tweaked a little. That was over three years ago. The only possibly difference is the models in viewer thing, from which a well-respected independant release is probably more reliable and is dependant on VHE's recent update, not CS's.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by KoRnFlakes on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 10:37am
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Cash Car Star said:
Why would there be a new fgd? CS hasn't changed it's entities since beta 6.5 when some of the es_ entities were tweaked a little. That was over three years ago. The only possibly difference is the models in viewer thing, from which a well-respected independant release is probably more reliable and is dependant on VHE's recent update, not CS's.
cash m8, new weps & new slots. the galil, the riot shield & the famas. 
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 10:48am
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thanks korn, that was my whole comeback...now what am i suppose to say...lol

i was mainly thinking of an edited game_player_equipt ent for the new weapons/equipment.

 
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 10:55am
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But those all come from players buying them, you don't need an fgd to add them. Func_buyzone and you're set. If you're talking about the armoury_entity, which is what will lay a gun down, then realize fy_ is not truly a supported map type. ES_ was the last official map type to include that entity, and it hasn't been touched since beta 6.5 (as I mentioned). This is why you could never use the armoury_entity to make an UMP (no clue what they call it now). Their whole current existence is vestigal code, it is not - and has not been for three years - supported.

As I said, the entities have not changed. The weapons did, but not the entities.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 11:23am
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say i want to place one specific weapon in a room, like a secret bonus for those who find it, does that constitute a fy? i think not. ive done that plenty of times in both de and cs maps.

the weapons changed, yes...which in turn means your entities need updating, ive got a player_equipt ent that allows me to give anyone anything in CS(as of 1.5), including extra ammo. the whole point is i just want the ability, doesnt mean im going to use it right here and now.

if you dont know where to get the fgd, then just say so.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Mor7y on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 4:27pm
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it IS a new fgd, but not completely done yet, some things are beeing tested.

Here is the link to the fgd: http://www.slackiller.com/tommy14/CSfgd.htm
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Spazz on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 4:50pm
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What is the difference between de maps and cs maps?
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 5:00pm
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wow spazz, im guessing you dont play much counter-strike...

de= any map designed with bombsites (terrorists have to bomb specific area"s")

cs= any map designed with hostages (counter terrorists have to rescue the hostages or die trying)

these are mearly prefixes of the maps name, and have absolutely no affect on the map itself, but all respected cs mappers give these prefixes so others can quickly distinguish what maptype it is.

THNX Morty
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Spazz on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 5:03pm
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sorry, i figured that but i wasnt sure
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 5:07pm
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no prob dude, thats what forums are for.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Hornpipe2 on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 5:25pm
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What do fy_, ka_, and others stand for?
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 5:36pm
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fy are those maps where there are either no buyzones, or there is one buyzone positioned so that ct's and t's have to fight for it...also they have weapons preset out on the map.

and i believe ka is either a clan, or its maps that were designed to be played as a game, no killing...like ka_giantbean...very fun map.

most prefixes are to desplay the clan for which the mapper is in or owns. post any other prefixes you want and ill try to give you an idea...but cs_ and de_ are the only ones you really need to worry about.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Hornpipe2 on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 5:41pm
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Wait, ka is knife arena apparently.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Gwil on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 6:00pm
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Cash is still theoretically right, as a rule FGD's dont change with updates unless there are new entities placed via mapping, surely.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 11:32pm
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As you may notice, the link Mor7y has does not go to www.counter-strike.net because it was made third party, as I stated any changes to the fgd would be.

To repeat: THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL CS MAPS WITH WEAPONS LAYING AROUND.

I'm not calling your map necessarily a turd for having a weapon laying somewhere, at least not yet. I'm just saying a pure CS map does not include such a feature

KA is knife arena - there was a whole knife arena movement about two and a half years ago, with knife arena mappacks and whatnot. I hate to know the level it has probably sunk to now though.

And, like so many CS mappers (this drives me nuts more than anything else in the CS mapping world) you have completely written off AS_ maps. Assassination, the most intense and unique gameplay and quite honestly a ton of fun. But no one ever makes AS_ maps. It's so retarded.

Quite honestly, nothing has infuriated me more in mapping than just the level of ignorance and disrespect for gameplay that so many CS mappers seem to have. I used to be a part of the forums there and stuff but I left when I kept having purist aneurysms such as this.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Gwil on Wed Oct 1st 2003 at 11:59pm
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Purist aneurysms :lol:  You do make me larf, CCS :razz:
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Thu Oct 2nd 2003 at 6:41pm
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where did i ever say that valve was going to be writing the new fgd file? i never said that, i however knew that with new weapons there would be a new fgd for cs.

hmm, well the one ka map i played (ka_giantbean) wasnt a killing map at all, infact the server would set alltalk on, and kick anyone who kills. the whole point of the map was to see who, and how many people could acually climb the beanstalk...very fun.

as for as_ maps, i myself only liked oilrig, other then that it seemed to easy for the terrorists to kill the vip, unless you got a good ct team (or horrible t team) but anyways, i guess i just forgot to mention as maps. SORRY!!!

P.S. Morty, change your post into an "answer to the problem" post so i can give ya credit.

 
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Gwil on Sat Oct 4th 2003 at 1:11pm
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Sorted.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by KoRnFlakes on Sat Oct 4th 2003 at 1:27pm
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oilrig was a fantastic map, But the limitations on weapons was rather poor.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Gwil on Sat Oct 4th 2003 at 1:33pm
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oilrig was excellent, it worked really well and looked the part as well :smile: ahhh, the good old days :biggrin:

true, the weapon limits were tres queer though.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Sun Oct 5th 2003 at 11:22pm
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so were all in agreement here...lol i always hated the weapons limitations, but the map was still well layed out, and definately looked pretty.

thnx gwil.
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Cash Car Star on Sun Oct 5th 2003 at 11:59pm
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You can AK, Colt and Deagle, what more could you want?
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Sinner_D on Mon Oct 6th 2003 at 12:36am
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when you just barely dont have enough for an ak on t, it really sux :wink:
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by LilRio on Mon Jan 5th 2004 at 3:05am
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Hey thanks for that fgd file now i can make a gr8 new sheild and usp map, i can call it fy_riot :smile:
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Hornpipe2 on Mon Jan 5th 2004 at 9:10am
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LilRio said:
Hey thanks for that fgd file now i can make a gr8 new sheild and usp map, i can call it fy_riot :smile:
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Re: CS 1.6 Posted by OtZman on Thu Jan 8th 2004 at 8:45pm
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Sinner_D said:
most prefixes are to desplay the clan for which the mapper is in or owns. post any other prefixes you want and ill try to give you an idea...but cs_ and de_ are the only ones you really need to worry about.
Is it possible to combine a cs and a de map?
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by Forceflow on Thu Jan 8th 2004 at 8:53pm
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All those funky colors are bumping your CS into the 70's disco mania !
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by LilRio on Thu Jan 8th 2004 at 9:14pm
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do u guys have the new fgd thing? cos i need to get fog on a map but i dont have a clue, i think its somat to do with the new env_fog entity
Re: CS 1.6 Posted by scary_jeff on Thu Jan 8th 2004 at 10:21pm
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There are some maps csde_ around, they have hostages and a bombpoint and to win a team has to either rescue the hostages, plant the bomb, or kill the other team. They generally aren't that great.