Final Fantasy XI

Final Fantasy XI

Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by DocRock on Mon Oct 20th 2003 at 2:02pm
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New Final Fantasy pc game, MMORPG releasing Oct 28
Looks ultra sweet and looks likes a definite winner for all FF fans!

http://www.square-enix-usa.com/seui/index.htm

Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Adam Hawkins on Mon Oct 20th 2003 at 2:09pm
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Wouldn't mind playing it as it seems like fun - but then I wouldn't mind playing loads of MMORPGS. Only problem is the time you need to invest in them. I wouldn't be able to play them often enough to justify the monthly fee.

Planetside seems pretty good for a drop-in kind of game though :smile: Now all I need is a faster net connection :sad:
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by ReNo on Mon Oct 20th 2003 at 3:08pm
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I'd love to play FFXI but with no net connection yet, and not really enough student loan to invest in monthly fees once i DO get my net connection, I doubt I'll be able to.

Guess I'll just need to wait for X-2 and XII :sad:
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by gimpinthesink on Mon Oct 20th 2003 at 5:12pm
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I'd like to play XI but I hate the monthly fees for mmorpg's thank god for the free Ultima Online shards.

But I doubt that there will be any free ones for FFXI :cry:
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Vash on Mon Oct 20th 2003 at 8:22pm
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Saw that about a year ago. It sounds retarded, because their seemed to be no human players, only fuzzy animal thingys..But maybe stuff has changed.
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Oct 20th 2003 at 11:00pm
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Everything but the monthly fee I like. Honestly, if a game has a monthly fee I think the disc should be free at least.
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Vash on Mon Oct 20th 2003 at 11:09pm
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Gorbachev said:
Everything but the monthly fee I like. Honestly, if a game has a monthly fee I think the disc should be free at least.
What can you say, people are greedy now a days. Instead of drawing in more bussiness, charging a monthly fee for online pay drives it away. Although not in this case..Every pimple filled FFX nerd will grab this game off the shelves...I hear another everquest craze :dorky:
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Gorbachev on Tue Oct 21st 2003 at 3:59am
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The only way I'd pay for the disc is if I had the option of running my own server that runs like an official server (i.e. DM server in D&D games) But if I'm at the mercy of only a companies server then I would only pay the monthly fees not fees + disc. They could sell a bundle of the manuals and extras seperately for a reasonable price instead. Hm..hell, why don't I get into this!
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Sim on Tue Oct 21st 2003 at 7:03am
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I like the FF games but FFX bored me and I left it. It's a shame really, the graphics and plot seemed amazing, but I just lost it. Maybe I'll try and go back to it. I hope this game is good, because the chances are I won't buy a game with monthly fees.

Nah I'd go and play FFVII, almost perfect game IMO.
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by ReNo on Tue Oct 21st 2003 at 9:41am
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FFX is a cool game and all, but there is something about it that doesn't pull me in as much as the others did. I wasn't attached to the world whatsoever, I can only remember the names of about 2 cities - normally I know the world off by heart. I think its the lack of a world map that gets me.
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by KoRnFlakes on Tue Oct 21st 2003 at 10:36am
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7 was brill, 8 was good, 9 was poor, I couldnt be bothered to play after 9 I thought it was getting really crap & not customizable any more, I enjoyed having lots of mates names on the characters & giving them defining identities etc, That was a big part of 7 & one of the reasons its imo the best one.
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Sim on Tue Oct 21st 2003 at 4:21pm
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I found the card game on 8 to be the most boring thing ever, plus you get the stupid random rule that gives you loads of crap cards. FFVIII could have done with more small things to distract the player, but with just the annoying card game the players just get bored. In FFVII the Gold Saucer was a huge bonus to the game. It had loads of stuff to do and the place was only touched upon in the plot. The number of secrets, alternate paths and side quests really made it a replayable masterpiece.

In FF8 the graphics looked awful in the PS1 version I played. Aliasing everywhere I seem to remember. I think it would be better to the simple anime-ish design in FF7 than to attempt graphics like in FF10+ poorly. FF9 was an improvement, but FF10 was the landmark for graphics IMO.

/rant
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Gorbachev on Wed Oct 22nd 2003 at 1:54am
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I loved 7. 8 had the best card game and was an all around interesting game, not the best though. 9 was the worst in my opinion, I didn't connect with the characters at all and all the side quests were worth nothing, the cards sucked and the game was way to easy (oh, and the trance moves were pathetic) Personally I loved 10, there wasn't exactly enough in the side quest department for my liking. I've played every Final Fantasy except for 3 (I have but it was jumbled text.) And have beaten all but 2 of them. I grew up with these games. Sometimes it just takes a different pass at the game a few years later to appreciate it.
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by Edge Damodred on Wed Oct 22nd 2003 at 5:48am
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None of the PS1 FF games with the exception of Tactics were really any good, 7 being the worst. I really enjoyed 10, loved the characters, the battles were much better, and the world was more original than the previous games. All of them again with the exception of Tactics and 6 pale in comparision to 4 though.
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by ReNo on Fri Oct 24th 2003 at 11:49am
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Bah, the world in 10 was really lacking - there are so few places that are noteworthy. 7 had such a varied world that actually felt alive - in 10 things like the battle arena just feel dead and tacked on. The chocobo racing is limited to 2 different races, and the prizes are s**te after the first wins (what, i win a potion?!). But hey, I guess its just a case of each to our own :smile:
Re: Final Fantasy XI Posted by DocRock on Thu Nov 13th 2003 at 7:21pm
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I've been playing this for a week or so now. Very fun game. Definitely worth the money if you have it and don't mind paying the monthly fee.

Don't know where this review came from, but it pretty much sums it up, IMO.

[color=gold]Square certainly made a brave decision in taking one of Japan's and if not the world's biggest gaming franchises into cyber-space. A franchise which sells out shortly after release might alienate those with an internet connection and a harddrive. From a business point of view, a fully online edition won't exactly reproduce the excellent sales seen in the past, and from Average Joe's perspective, without even a second thought, it will be dismissed for not staying true to the series. Indeed, FFXI isn't another single-player and incredibly linear RPG, destined to be shelved into the Japanese "interactive book" genre. It's the beginning of a chapter which will lead to many new stories in the genre, in what is the biggest and most ambitious Square game to date.

For the first time console gamers can experience and appreciate a cross platform, multi-lingual MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game), whereby both Japanese and English gamers can interact with one and another, no matter which side of the continent, on whatever platform, PS2 or PC. Not only that, but it's also Square's first effort at the online scene, which to be blunt, does sound slightly over ambitious coming from a developer who gave us uninspiring non-RPG titles such as The Bouncer, Driving Emotion Type:S and World Fantasista. Just what is FFXI? Another Final Fantasy themed game certainly, another failed effort away from the story book RPG? Certainly not.

Experienced MMORPG players very well know that a storyline isn't the genre's selling point, to say the least. MMORPG storylines are not important in what is a genre which lives for it's endless gameplay rather than it's streams of cutscenes. FFXI, staying true to the MMORPG genre, does give the storyline a backseat. However, Square's rendition of a plot, which develops through updates in a game which will never end is very commendable. The fabulous and rather emotional CGI intro accompanied by a great orchestral theme from Nobuo Uematsu quickly gives you an idea of the game's mood. Set in the world of Vana-Diel, an evil force has struck terror across the land. Towns and villages, men, women and children slaughtered brutally by rampant animals and monsters commanded by an evil force known as Shadow Lord, who seems to desire complete control over the land of Vana-diel. Whether or not this is the case remains to be seen, as there are many plot twists and turns which will seem conspicuous throughout progression, which flows through optional missions for those interested.

Vana-diel is populated with 5 races which include Humes; your average human, either male or female. Elvaans; a tall, pointy eared race who are best used at the front of a fight. Mithra; a sexy cat-girl who is very agile in battle (FFIX's main lead, Zidane, was also a Mithra, however FFXI only allows you to be a female). Galka; a gorilla-like race who can certainly take damage well, and last but not least, TaruTaru; small 2-3 feet gnomes who are undoubtedly the cutest of the lot. Like the very first Final Fantasy, six starting jobs are available to select from the start; Warrior, Monk, White Mage, Black Mage, Red Mage and Thief. Of course, careful consideration needs to be applied before creating your own character. If you're looking to be mainly a melee player, then look no further than the Elvaans, who have the highest strength potential out of the 5 races. If you're more of a magician, TaruTarus are recommended. Each race has its own strengths and weaknesses for the various jobs in the game.

After creating your own player, it's time to take he/she into the world of Vana-diel. The game consists of 3 starting kingdoms. Bastok, a country who utilise their mining resources and alchemy skills to have a hand in the economy. San d'Oria, home of the Elvaans, the population is very holy and religious, and lastly, Windurst, a kingdom which focuses on supplying Vana-Diel with vast supplies of food. Each race has their own home country and if you choose to become it's citizen, you are given your special country ring to aid you on your way. However, there is no right or wrong choice here. Your choice of starting Kingdom only determines which route you take through the story, which can be altered at any time for a small amount of Gil (the Final Fantasy currency).

In order to advance through the game proper your character will be required to level up. A most fundemantal and critical part of any online RPG is raising your character status by battling, which is what you will spend the most time doing in FFXI. Square have developed FFXI with an emphasis on teamwork and unlike previous Final Fantasy games, FFXI allows up to 6 players in one party. The battle system adopts the much maligned auto-attack approach which has long since become a standard for MMORPG's. Limit breaks make an appearance once again, this time known as Weapon Skills, which can be chained together to form a Renkei. Renkei is vital in defeating very strong monsters as quickly as possible. As well as being visually impressive, Renkei also requires constant attention and a quick response, creating an additional level of complexity. Not every party member needs contribute to a Renkei, since different jobs carry with them different responsibilties.

What really makes FFXI shine is the choice to change jobs (like FFV), which multiplies longevity tenfold. One day you may decide to be a hard hitting Monk, and the next you can become a holy White Mage, eventually finding home with your preferred job. The advantage this has is that it negates the need for you to create a new charecter should you wish to change your existing job. As you progress through the game, you may accept a quest for your Support Jobs. Subbing a job along with your main, will allow you to inherit it's active and passive abilities (only half of your main level), and gives a stat boost depending on which support you have chosen. Though it's advisable to use a support which further strengthens your main's plus points, any combination can be used as you see fit - you have complete control on your own play style. Progression in the game allows you to unlock advanced jobs such as Samurai, Summoner or even Dragoon. The game at this point in time contains 14 playable jobs which broadens your choices, where each job has it's own role in the party.

The world of Vana-Diel is represented in a beautiful manner, with it's own distinct style and look. Models and designs represent a look very typical of Square RPG's, and will be very appealing to previous Final Fantasy gamers especially, as monsters such as the almighty Behemoth are depicted as they would expect them to be. A certain feel of nostalgia is brought home when you engage a classic Final Fantasy beast. The PC version of the game features higher resolution (hardware dependant), which can look smoother, but whether it's a PS2 or an updated PC you're playing on, the game looks beautiful.

Character models have been implemented well, with a varied approach, offering you your own form and look, whether you want to be portrayed as a mysterious Elvaan, a charismatic Mithra or a super cute Tarutaru (no doubt you'll fall in love with them). Armour and Weapons available in the game are mostly varied with their own distinct look, with much armoury and weaponry from previous Final Fantasy games making an appearance, such as Beatrix's "Save the Queen" sword. The game's soundtrack consists of composition between Naoshi Mizuta, Kumi Tanioka and one of Japan's finest; Nobuo Uematsu, which undoubtedly is another worthy addition to your OST collection. Town themes have been composed to a high standard also, you'll sometimes find yourself remaining in one place simply admiring the music. There are various battle themes which are also very well orchestrated and these never become tiresome or repetitive.

Something which the game requires is a lot of time and devotion. Invest this and it will reward you with game time which justifies it's monthly fee. It's that immersive and engrossing, which means if you commit yourself to what the game has to offer, your other consoles will become nothing but dust collectors. Undoubtedly, this game offers far more playtime than the entire series put together, with constant tweaks and updates ensuring the experience remains at its best, through the constant evolving gameplay. Where some MMOs in the past had PvP (players vs player) thrown in just for the sake of it, Square-Enix are waiting to implement it to fit in with the storyline, ensuring it is as balanced as possible and not intrusive to players who have no wish to slay other players. FFXI's game engine is very "polite", with bowing, waving and other emotes coming typically from the Japanese culture, and ensures the game's community is as relaxed as possible. This along with the input translation system now built into the game means a positive community awaits your arrival. Square have definitely taken this project very seriously indeed.

There is so much more to the game which just cannot be worded into a review, but what must be mentioned is who this game is aimed at. If you're looking for a new online game to get stuck into, or have never played an MMORPG before, but you would like to see what all the addiction is about, then look no further than this. It's a game which sucks you in and refuses to let go, a game which you'll wake up to every morning with that fresh "must play" feeling. Importers can either go for the Japanese PS2/PC versions or look for the American PC release, which is the most convenient way to play the game for non Japanese speakers, at least until the PS2 release in March 2004. Those who have absolutely no interest in online gaming o