Vertex Tool

Vertex Tool

Re: Vertex Tool Posted by Rulez on Mon Feb 21st 2005 at 2:17pm
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Hi People,

I am new to the Snarkpit. My first question then: I make a cube. Use 'Vertex Tool' to turn it into verious kind of cubes. To change it. You have four views. Camera/Top/Front and Side view. I can use 'Vertex Tool' in every view.

Now again I want to use 'Vertex Tool'. only this time it only works in 'camera' view. Maybe I pussed a button? Which one? I don't know. Can somebody help me?

Thanks.

Rulez.
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by French Toast on Mon Feb 21st 2005 at 3:07pm
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Try pressing the Vertex tool twice, that switches some aspects of it, but what shapes are you making? There are easier ways to make certain things.
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by Rulez on Tue Feb 22nd 2005 at 3:38pm
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:biggrin:

Thanks anyway. But that is not the problem. If you press the 'Vertex Tool' once, twice or more, the places were can change the objects changes. Please forgive for my incorrect English writing.

I have much to learn, only thing I want to know is, why can't I move the object in the top/side/front view...?
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by Static88 on Tue Feb 22nd 2005 at 5:59pm
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Because while in vertex manipulation mode, the object cannot be moved. Just move the object to where you want it to be before you manipulate it. Why are you trying to move the object while in vertex manipulation anyways? Just curious.
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by omegaslayer on Tue Feb 22nd 2005 at 10:56pm
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Don't use the vertex tool if you are new to mapping, it can lead to
invalid brushes and what not, try using the clip tool instead.
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by Leperous on Wed Feb 23rd 2005 at 10:44am
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He's saying he can only vertex manipulate in the 3D window. I personally haven't got a clue as to why this is, other than the SHIFT or CTRL button or something crazy is stuck down :confused:
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by bluppfisk on Sat Jun 11th 2005 at 5:31pm
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I'm experiencing the same problem and I don't have shift or ctrl down... Raah. Anyone know why yet?

By the way why can't you undo while vertex modificating? That's just
plain silly, sometimes you make a small mistake that is too hard to
revert, but then you have to exit vertex mode and undo everything.
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by Natus on Sat Jun 11th 2005 at 5:42pm
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By the way why can't you undo while vertex modificating? That's just
plain silly, .
ask the valve dudes instead, they made the program, so all the bugs must be their mistake.

even though i dont think its a bug, just something that couldn't turn out any better because it would cause bugs...i think.
Boo f**king Hoo
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by bluppfisk on Sat Jun 11th 2005 at 5:49pm
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Yes, I know it's not a bug, it's just a bummer when you have to deal with it, you never know if someone knows a workaround.

Anyway, here's the solution to the no vertex editing in 2D problem:

while in vertex mode you can drag in the open, you make a kind of
selection box that resembles the one you use to select. But it's not
the same. Usually this selection box also disappears as soon as you
release the mouse button, but it didn't do that on that occasion for
some reason (bug? my mistake?)

Anyway, whenever going in vertex mode I couldn't edit in 2D mode as
long as the blue selection box stayed visible (it's visible in 3D view
as well, everywhere but won't disappear).

You have to find this blue selection box (mind you, it can be extremely
small as you probably made it unawarely), and resize it to the absolute
minimum (0x0 units).

Only then the selection box disappears and then 2D vertex editing is again possible.

(update: the blue selection box stays when you're busy editing vertices
and accidentally click next to it and then drag a selection box)

(update2: I'm not able to reduce the box to 0 x 0 units unless I
activate auto-selection & select by handles, don't ask me why)

I ask you why, but I give you a solution.
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by Riven on Sat Jun 11th 2005 at 5:56pm
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i didnt think you had to resize the selection box down to get rid of it. I would find it first, then select it and hit enter (that would make it disapear) and deselect anything that it was grouping and carry on with what ever tool i was using.
Re: Vertex Tool Posted by Madedog on Sat Jun 11th 2005 at 6:07pm
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You can also hit Escape and it will disappear... just like with the normal arrow...

I myself believe, that Valve guys use another tool to create maps,
something more advanced than the hammer / piece of crap - the thing
they give to us. And they also give us some crappy noname XSI | Mod
tool, which is completely nude, which you have to register to export
Scenes... damn them!

I'd like to get a job in Valve to find out what they really do there...
and I believe I'd share this information with the Community of Snarkpit
:razz: Depending whether I am allowed though...
HL2 tutorials 'n' stuff: http://madedog.pri.ee
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