All light does not show up at all

Ok, at first when I started making my map, I used only light_spots for
lighting. I compiled and played my unfinished map many times without
any point_spotlights, and everything was lit up fine. But today I
decided to add point_spotlights under each light. When I did this, it
was as if all of my light_spots disappeared when I compiled the map.
Everything was dark, and only the point_spotlights were showing instead
of the spotlights AND the light_spots together.

My compile log is below. Your help is appreciated.

** Executing...

** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk\bin\vbsp.exe"

** Parameters: -game "c:\program
files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\counter-strike source\cstrike"
"C:\Program
Files\Steam\SteamApps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Jan 19 2005)

1 threads

materialPath: c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\counter-strike source\cstrike\materials

Loading C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold.vmf

fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...

ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Processing areas...done (0)

Building Faces...done (0)

FixTjuncs...

PruneNodes...

WriteBSP...

done (1)

writing C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold.prt...done (0)

Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox sky_wasteland02...

Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.

Finding displacement neighbors...

Found a displacement edge abutting multiple other edges.

Finding lightmap sample positions...

Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10

Building Physics collision data...

done (0) (358559 bytes)

Emitting linux collision data (use -nolinuxdata to disable).

Building Physics collision data...

done (0) (825751 bytes)

Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10

Writing C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold.bsp

3 seconds elapsed

Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 48

Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 3

** Executing...

** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk\bin\vvis.exe"

** Parameters: -game "c:\program
files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\counter-strike source\cstrike"
"C:\Program
Files\Steam\SteamApps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Dec 15 2004)

1 threads

reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold.bsp

reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold.prt

434 portalclusters

1068 numportals

BasePortalVis: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

PortalFlow: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (13)

Optimized: 921 visible clusters (0.00%)

Total clusters visible: 65875

Average clusters visible: 151

Building PAS...

Average clusters audible: 408

visdatasize:45379 compressed from 48608

writing c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold.bsp

13 seconds elapsed

** Executing...

** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk\bin\vrad.exe"

** Parameters: -game "c:\program
files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\counter-strike source\cstrike"
"C:\Program
Files\Steam\SteamApps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold"

Valve Software - vrad.exe (Mar 8 2005)

----- Radiosity Simulator ----

1 threads

[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']

[1 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\thebulleteater\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\de_stronghold.bsp

1759 faces

2 degenerate faces

166515 square feet [23978202.00 square inches]

24 displacements

40433 square feet [5822367.50 square inches]

1757 patches before subdivision

16501 patches after subdivision

41 direct lights

BuildFacelights: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (52)

BuildVisLeafs: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (9)

transfers 765326, max 379

transfer lists: 5.8 megs

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Bou

The large number of light bounces could be a factor in your problem....try to cut back...

CLs

I should think the fact it keeps bouncing (-1,-1,-1) is a problem... thats seriously screwed up :/

OK first, we already had this discussion. the amount of bounces is not an issue. i was informed that the default bounce setting is 100 times. :eek:

secondly, i can detect no error in the compile log, so that leads me to believe that you may have failed to set the lights properties maybe?

i dunno how HL2 reacts, but in HL1 if you fail to give light a value, it fails to add any light at all..

something tells me that you made one light, then copy/pasted the rest from it without testing it first to see if it was functional

it also says that you only had one text light, and HL1 refuses to consider textured light as a source and made its maps all dark if they were the only sources of light :sad:

assuming i am not a complete idiot.. i would advise you to make a tiny test map. one that will compile in a couple second and work through this light issue. when its working copy the result into your map.

When you use spotlights, you should also remember to disable the 'dynamic lighting' flag...

Leperous said:
When you use spotlights, you should also remember to disable the 'dynamic lighting' flag...

your answer sounds as right, or more right than mine, you should make it yellow.

me answer is now blue. Leps answer looks more right. which part of my answer was correct? i only ask for future reference.

thanx.

Bounce #1 added RGB(-1, -1, -1) your red is -1 green -1 and blue is -1.

find your light, and copy the 4 numbers from your 'light color' box (i.e. 234 234 234 200)

The part of your answer that worked for me was:

assuming i am not a complete idiot.. i would advise you to make a tiny
test map. one that will compile in a couple second and work through
this light issue. when its working copy the result into your map.

Since none of your conditions seemed to fit, I tried doing that and my lights work perfectly now. Thank you for your help.

Tis my pleasure, but may i ask, what was different between the non-functional ones and the ones you used?

i am not being a prude, but my answer was only right, in the most basic sense. it is really only a path TO an answer.

/me is genuinely curious.

I can't say there was an obvious difference. Seriously though, every
setting for the old and new light_spot and point_spotlight were the
same.

Twilight zone...

another fix without a real solution!