Lighting problems

Hi there, my problem is that when i compile and run my map, the
lighting seems to change brightness depending on where i am. For
example; the light_environment seems to be darker if i am in the
shade, even though it should not appear to change at all. It is quite
hard to explain so here are some pictures:

http://photobucket.com/albums/v290/-senshi-/HL2%20Mapping/

The same thing happens with indoor light_spot entities too, it
seems that i have to be within a cretain range of them in order to see
the light's full effect.

I am certain that this is a problem with my map, not my computer, as
compiling sdk_dm_lockdown does not have any of these problems. The
strange thing is that i have given the lights in my map amost the exact
same properties as some of the lights in lockdown.

Here is a compile log:

** Executing...

** Command: "c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\sourcesdk\bin\vbsp.exe"

** Parameters: -game "c:\program
files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp"
"C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\senshi_mark\half-life 2
deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Jan 19 2005)

1 threads

materialPath: c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\materials

Loading C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.vmf

fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...

ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Processing areas...done (0)

Building Faces...done (1)

FixTjuncs...

PruneNodes...

WriteBSP...

done (0)

writing C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.prt...done (0)

Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox sky_wasteland02...

Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.

Finding displacement neighbors...

Finding lightmap sample positions...

Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10

Building Physics collision data...

done (0) (98727 bytes)

Emitting linux collision data (use -nolinuxdata to disable).

Building Physics collision data...

done (0) (98727 bytes)

Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10

Writing C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.bsp

3 seconds elapsed

Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 48

Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 3

** Executing...

** Command: "c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\sourcesdk\bin\vvis.exe"

** Parameters: -game "c:\program
files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp"
-fast "C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\senshi_mark\half-life 2
deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (Dec 15 2004)

fastvis = true

1 threads

reading c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.bsp

reading c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.prt

630 portalclusters

2510 numportals

BasePortalVis: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (8)

WARNING: Cluster portals saw into cluster

Optimized: 1178 visible clusters (0.00%)

Total clusters visible: 391869

Average clusters visible: 622

Building PAS...

Average clusters audible: 630

visdatasize:104535 compressed from 100800

writing c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.bsp

8 seconds elapsed

** Executing...

** Command: "c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\sourcesdk\bin\vrad.exe"

** Parameters: -game "c:\program
files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp"
-noextra "C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\senshi_mark\half-life
2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high"

Valve Software - vrad.exe (Mar 8 2005)

----- Radiosity Simulator ----

1 threads

[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']

[45 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.bsp

1670 faces

208489 square feet [30022466.00 square inches]

0 displacements

0 square feet [0.00 square inches]

1670 patches before subdivision

zero area child patch

zero area child patch

14462 patches after subdivision

20 direct lights

BuildFacelights: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (28)

BuildVisLeafs: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (21)

transfers 736032, max 206

transfer lists: 5.6 megs

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Bounce #1 added RGB(73282, 74837, 65260)

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)

Bounce #2 added RGB(10278, 10109, 8236)

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Bounce #3 added RGB(1307, 1254, 1003)

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Bounce #4 added RGB(198, 186, 145)

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Bounce #5 added RGB(32, 30, 23)

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Bounce #6 added RGB(6, 5, 4)

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)

Bounce #7 added RGB(1, 1, 1)

GatherLight: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

Bounce #8 added RGB(0, 0, 0)

Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0293 sec>

FinalLightFace: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)

FinalLightFace Done

Ready to Finish

0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.

ComputePerLeafAmbientLighting: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10

Object names Objects/Maxobjs Memory / Maxmem Fullness

------------ --------------- --------------- --------

models
14/1024
672/49152 ( 1.4%)

brushes
275/8192
3300/98304 ( 3.4%)

brushsides
2173/65536 17384/524288
( 3.3%)

planes
1822/65536 36440/1310720 (
2.8%)

vertexes
3470/65536 41640/786432
( 5.3%)

nodes
1072/65536 34304/2097152 (
1.6%)

texinfos
284/12288 20448/884736
( 2.3%)

texdata
23/2048
736/65536 ( 1.1%)

dispinfos
0/0
0/0 ( 0.0%)

disp_verts
0/0
0/0 ( 0.0%)

disp_tris
0/0
0/0 ( 0.0%)

disp_lmsamples
0/0
0/0 ( 0.0%)

faces
1670/65536 93520/3670016 (
2.5%)

origfaces
888/65536 49728/3670016 (
1.4%)

leaves
1087/65536 60872/3670016 (
1.7%)

leaffaces
1985/65536
3970/131072 ( 3.0%)

leafbrushes
564/65536
1128/131072 ( 0.9%)

surfedges
11613/512000 46452/2048000 ( 2.3%)

edges
6734/256000 26936/1024000 ( 2.6%)

worldlights
20/8192
1760/720896 ( 0.2%)

waterstrips
200/32768
2000/327680 ( 0.6%)

waterverts
0/65536
0/786432 ( 0.0%)

waterindices
3321/65536
6642/131072 ( 5.1%)

cubemapsamples
32/1024
512/16384 ( 3.1%)

overlays
0/512
0/180224 ( 0.0%)

lightdata
[variable]
755488/0 ( 0.0%)

visdata
[variable] 104535/16777216 ( 0.6%)

entdata
[variable]
9780/393216 ( 2.5%)

occluders
0/0
0/0 ( 0.0%)

occluder polygons
0/0
0/0 ( 0.0%)

occluder vert ind
0/0
0/0 ( 0.0%)

detail props
[variable]
1/12 ( 8.3%)

static props
[variable]
1/1388 ( 0.1%)

pakfile
[variable]
90639/0 ( 0.0%)

Win32 Specific Data:

physics
[variable] 98727/4194304 (
2.4%)

Total Win32 BSP file data space used: 1507615 bytes

Linux Specific Data:

physicssurface
[variable] 98727/6291456 (
1.6%)

Total Linux BSP file data space used: 1507615 bytes

Total triangle count: 4746

Writing c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.bsp

52 seconds elapsed

** Executing...

** Command: Copy File

** Parameters: "C:\Program
Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\senshi_mark\half-life 2
deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.bsp" "c:\program
files\valve\steam\steamapps\senshi_mark\half-life 2
deathmatch\hl2mp\maps\Hang_em_high.bsp"

Any help would be much appreciated (Yes it is a copy of Han 'Em High from Halo)

You cannot post a link to your private folder. you must post links to said images.. Preferably optimized images..

unless, you would grant us your password :biggrin:

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Ok, i have made that album public now, people should be able to access it :smile: somebody tell me if they cant i'll edit the link.

My bad :s

WARNING: Cluster portals saw into cluster

Dunno if this is THE issue, but any warning is not a good warning.. shrugs

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Yeah, fix everything up. I've found that seemingly unrelated warnings in my log can be causing my problems.

there are a few textures in hl2 that have messed with me as well...mmm....one of the rock textures in particular was making it as if a photo flash went off when i entered the room....changed the texture, end of problem....not a fix, but a workaround.....ill try to remember which it was and post it....

Doc B... :dodgy:

for those textures that cause those problems, check to see if "model" appears in their name. you cannot use model textures

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Also, make sure you have placed env_cubemap entities around the map and don't forget to run "buildcubemaps" via the console.

Wow, you guys are awesome,

[size=16]Problem fixed.

Anyone experiencing the problems I described above, avoid textures with 'model' in the name.

Thankyou everyone, truly awesome, now i can get on with some cool lighting effects :smile:

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We need a notice about this. It should read "Before posting your
problem, make sure your textures don't have model in the name". A
question with this solution comes up about once a week.

well done gents..... :wink:

Doc B... :dodgy:

Senshi said:
[size=16]Problem fixed.

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np. (not much point in marking that post into a suggested answer though :razz: ) The reason behind this is that model textures are set to use the "VertexLitGeneric" shader.

and yeah it does seem to come up a lot. maybe put it in the sticky?

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