Had a very interesting visit with a local Snarkpit member.

/me casa../you casa.

and yeah, as you can guess... I am never home. I average 120 to 140 thousand miles a year.

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Lots to comment on after missing a couple of days! You guys touched on a lot of stuff; where should I start? I'll keep it short....

Crono said:
In terms of flexibility in rules ... well, if there's not as many people, you don't have to keep things as straight and clean cut, you can kind of let things happen organically.

This is my belief. At least as long as I can make time to read all the threads and catch up on all the ongoings, there would be not good enough reason to 'autoban' a person on the loose basis of a couple of PMs and a recommendation by a fellow moderator (we have none atm actually). So, if the admin can keep tabs on the different personalities and issues within their forums, I wouldn't advocate strict moderation, because there's enough time and patience to go around to work these things out (usually).

Features are in place where if need be, we could organize new moderators and lock threads etc... But until the activity on the site increases, I don't find it necessary.

Orpheus said:
It was one of the first things Riven and I discussed when we met. I was still sorta worried that he was a kid pretending to be of legal age. You never know these things in advance.

Yes we did in fact talk about this; it can be somewhat of a stressful ordeal, where young people in good intention wishing to act their maturity, but are definitely trapped in their 13, 16 year-old self call on elders to treat them like adults. ..And setting a meet-up can make the older of the group super paranoid. I get that, and hope nothing ever happens to anyone here involving such an issue. However despite all that, I have to say I laughed at this comment Orph. It's not for any reason stated above, but simply because I tried to imagine myself pretending to act legal all these years, and not being so, what would be my motive? I tried to imagine a few.

It's unfortunate that these concerns are indeed legitimate, but as you can see from the younger-side's end, that lines can be crossed quite easily at no fault to the elder, and yet get accused. I respect you for fighting that, and I hope I can maintain just as much enjoyment from internet forums in the future as I have since.

It's something that should be considered for anyone after you turn 18 I would think.

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Well, Nibs to stay off topic on Gothic no I'm having trouble getting a hold of a copy for some reason. I'll keep trying though, just been real busy lately and I apologise.

BOT, I don't know why people get so upset when a topic wanders every now and then. I had a site for years and we never worried about it. It gets back on track easy enuff if you want it to. Also I haven't seen anything around here that smacks of dowright fighting and bickering on the forums. Diversity and disagreement make things interesting and all of you guys seem to have a sense of that.
There are so many I can see from different stages and walks of life that things can get confused and comments mistaken, and that just taking the time to try and understand someone's posts usually clarifies what their saying before you decide to bark back.
Yes you do get those that need to be banned from time to time but those are usually total nutjobs which I haven't seen here.

And yes, the world has become a place where adults have to be careful how they deal with young adults and children. Because at the drop of a single word your world can turn to ruin and get very ugly. That's where maturity comes in and adults are paranoid to deal with young people, because that maturity isn't there to handle situations of that ilk. And when a young person is disappointed in how they perceived or treated they tend to revert to their immature state and can ruin someone's life because of it.
Oh, well back to better things guys.

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sgtfly said:
Well, Nibs to stay off topic on Gothic no I'm having trouble getting a hold of a copy for some reason. I'll keep trying though, just been real busy lately and I apologise.

No need to apologise, I just feel bad that it costs you so much trouble. Just say it when you really can't get hold of a copy, I won't mind.

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Riven said:
It's something that should be considered for anyone after you turn 18 I would think.

It should be but I am betting NOBODY here (or elsewhere) will.

An event that happened 10 or 15 years back:
My brother-in-law and his girlfriend at the time was 17 and 16 respectively. They were doing what comes natural for teens. Anyway, when he turns 18, she turns 17 and HE GOES TO JAIL.
Now, because of the law and the sex offender registration act he has a noose around his neck for the rest of his life.

Mind you, we need to watch pedophiles but these kids had been at it for a year or more but because of a loophole/misrepresentation/over zealous law official, he went to jail when he was 18 because she was a minor still.

All I can say is, if you guys are just now turning, or have recently turned 18, you truly need to rethink your actions. I would hate to see a repeat of my inlaws event.

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Your brother-in-law should of hired an attorney. He was with in the 3 year age group of the person he was dating, and that is not just a state deal, but a federal one.. Now I am not sure what the laws are like in your state, but in Texas a person becomes an adult at 17, and can consent to sex. Minors who have had sex can be charged with Statutory Rape, but that is often brought on by parents who don't want their babies having sex, or don't like the partner their child has chosen. Most judges look at those cases and give very lenient punishments, knowing full well it takes two to tango. So either your lieing to make a point and warn people to be careful, cause there are ass-hats out there who don't have your best interest at heart, or your brother-in-law got a raw deal and should see what he can do to get his conviction appealed.

The information I posted is second hand at best. I don't believe he lied to me though. However, I cannot swear on it as gospel either.

It was a case of the girls parents turning him in though so... What I found odd was that absolutely nothing changed except he turned 18.

shrugs

I only posted it to show that there are possible cases where the pedophile thing is abused.. (or can be)

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That's actually a very common thing.

What's worse is, later, those types of couples usually get married, and have kids and now the father can never go anywhere near their school or any extracurricular activities.

It's a very screwed up situation.

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Crono said:
It's a very screwed up situation.

Very.
Like I said, I don't think he lied. Since he is still young, I see no reason or benefit for him to have been untruthful.

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So yeah, Have him check out his state laws on when adulthood takes place.. I bet he can get that overturned. I have seen it happen here in Texas as well, and pretty close to the same story except the girl was like 16 and the guy turned a8 and the parents had him arrested. They normally get the Statutory Charge reversed, due to being with in that 3 year age difference.

I understand why the law is in place, I am just sad that it often gets abused by parents who wish to control and rule over their children's lives, and use it to punish a guy they just don't approve of. I hardly ever see it in the reverse though. 18yo Female and 16 yo boy... seems that parents are a bit more forgiving in that situation.

As I said before in the State of Texas your an adult at 17.

Orpheus said:

Crono said:
Why not instead of enforcing and defining issues that plague the boards you help eliminate them by discontinuing their stigma?

Dood.. When I am talking about age, I mean AGE. You prolly dunno what its like to constantly worry that some parent some place may notice that a child of theirs is talking to a very old man.

THAT stigma is not something I have any control over but it is a VERY real concern.

It was one of the first things Riven and I discussed when we met. I was still sorta worried that he was a kid pretending to be of legal age. You never know these things in advance.

If you want to help REMOVE any stigmas here at Snarkpit, how about you broaden your horizons beyond what YOU feel is important and think about someone elses viewpoint for a change. You automatically assumed I was picking on the old people/young pup thing when all along it was something MUCH more important.

You are back to the pot calling the kettle black again, and I for one don't like it one bit.

[edit] Feel free to ask Riven if we didn't discuss the age issue. He concurred that it would be a very nerve wracking thing to constantly worry about it.
I was so glad he wasn't a kid..

I must admit I have became more aware of this since becoming a "man" as opposed to a teenager I was a few years ago. I'm not looking forward to getting older, this being one of the reasons nowadays. When I joined this website I was 13 and Orpheus was a little funny about interacting with me, now I understand why that was. Can't say I blame him in this day and age.

Orpheus said:
As you have noticed, you can screw the pooch often and vigorously and remain.

On a serious note, we have only banned less than half a dozen accounts and if I recall, 3 of them were the same person. (Rugal)

Snarkpit doesn't ban lightly.

My first account (Freeman) was banned because I taunted an Admin (I think it might have been Leperous) that he wouldn't ban me. The next time I tried to login, that account it not exist. I was right, they didn't ban me, they deleted me.

Orpheus said:

Riven said:
It's something that should be considered for anyone after you turn 18 I would think.

It should be but I am betting NOBODY here (or elsewhere) will.

An event that happened 10 or 15 years back:
My brother-in-law and his girlfriend at the time was 17 and 16 respectively. They were doing what comes natural for teens. Anyway, when he turns 18, she turns 17 and HE GOES TO JAIL.
Now, because of the law and the sex offender registration act he has a noose around his neck for the rest of his life.

Mind you, we need to watch pedophiles but these kids had been at it for a year or more but because of a loophole/misrepresentation/over zealous law official, he went to jail when he was 18 because she was a minor still.

All I can say is, if you guys are just now turning, or have recently turned 18, you truly need to rethink your actions. I would hate to see a repeat of my inlaws event.

That's crazy, over here we have a law that says if you are within two years then it doesn't count. Hell, the courts wouldn't be able to cope with the amount of people if they tried to prosecute everybody at it. It seems more strict in America.

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