Atrium

Sounds interesting, Forceflow. Good luck with it =)

Looks very promising indeed. I like the darkness very much.

Lighting's nice, I'd just scale those textures down and possibly get some new ones.

I've scaled them down, they look better now.

Post a beta download link or pm me a link and I'd be happy to look for errors and give suggestions.

So, it's finished ... I had to build it in a rush, because I'm leaving on holiday this evening. (I'm back the 1^st of august).

Anyway, take a look at the screenshots, and tell me what you think.

See you all soon.

:biggrin:

I've got to say Force, I'm not very impressed.

-Flat lighting

-Unimaginative architecture

-Boring textures

Sorry to be so harsh, but that is what I see.

Ok, can live with that. I've built this thing in a week. Maybe I'll
edit it when I'm back, but I just wanted something for the compo.

I believe that lep is gonna extend the contest a couple of days.

So I'd suggest planning more cause its pretty drab atm.

Hmmm, its prolly a bit late to suggest stuff but never mind, here goes... The lighting direction looks as tho' its set at 0/90/180 or 270 degrees, changing it to 70 or some other value so that its not at a right angle should make it look better.



1 - rope ladder (?) is ok but it would be more interesting to have a climeable trellis or vines up that wall, the cs_havana.wad has got trellis and vine tex's.

2 - needs something on those walls - window, alcove etc.

3 - roofs are typically supported with timber beams, i would use a different tex for the roof underside, tfc2.wad's m_ceiling usually works ok for this.

4 - the wall looks as tho' its got an angled brush at the base (?) but it'll maybe still look too flat. A different tex at the lower level will help or make the ground slope up the wall a bit - something like the blue lines although maybe not so high.



1 - big stretch of boring wall here and prolly in other parts of the map - add some trellis, vines, brick buttress etc. to make it look better.

It always looks unrealistic when theres only a wall around the map edges, put in a few tree models behind the wall or use some func_walls textured with bushes/trees on top of the wall.

2 - that wall looks a bit thin ?

3 - needs some trim around the door edges and some doors if the r's can take it. Maybe arched doorways would fit in ?

4 - ummm, this roof on the bit that juts out may look better if it's lowered to where the white lines are so that the roofs are at different levels and it looks a bit more random.

5 - the line between the two different ground tex's sticks out, could do with something less obvious.

Hard to say if the textures are ok although the perimeter wall does seem a bit plain, maybe worth trying tfc2.wad's i_wall_base for that wall and see if it makes a difference.

And thats it :smile:

Wow, im glad we still have people at snarkpit who are willing to be so kind to review and give tips like this.. nice one beer hunter. Forceflow deff take these tips.. it could only help.

I have some other work to do, so I don't think I can make those changes before the mapping contest deadline.

I do appreciate all the remarks and I will finish this map when the time is there.

environment_light angle is set to -30 ... wrong ?

Errr, that -30 is maybe the pitch ? its the light direction/angle that seems a bit off as the shadows look as tho' they're lined up at a 90 degree angle with the walls although its hard to tell from the screenys :sad:

yes ... silly me ... I mixed up pitch and angle ... I might think of
correcting it, but only if I get my other work done. Thx a lot.

I noticed at least 2 spawnpoints where you are facing a wall. Not a pleasant experience.


I dont know what these cracks are supposed to be... prolly not a big deal, just looks funny.

Oh yeah, and the silence is nigh unbearable. Add some sounds.

Well, the cracks are my try at a triangular terrain, but I guess I screwed things up. :smile:

Forceflow said:
Well, the cracks are my try at a triangular terrain, but I guess I screwed things up. :smile:

Line them up and they should look nice :smile:

sloth, he most likely did but csg spazed out and tried to correct the angle. It happens a lot ... almost every time I've ever tried triangle terrain anyway.

Thats never happened to me, like that, the only prob i've had is where the side doesn't show at all and shows the 'sky'

Have you read my triangle terrain tutorials? If you build your triangles like I suggest in that, and keep everything on the grid (4 or 8 units preferrably, larger if you are working on large terrain), then CSG should never have to move any vertices.

Have you read my triangle terrain tutorials? If you build your
triangles like I suggest in that, and keep everything on the grid (4 or
8 units preferrably, larger if you are working on large terrain), then
CSG should never have to move any vertices.

Yeah, I did that .. I built 1 terrain, which went perfectly, then I
wanted to re-use that terrain for other parts of the map, but I
highered/lowered/rotated it a bit, which probably got it off the grid
... I've got 1/2 spots like on the screenshots, but that's about it ...
It doesn't really affect gameplay ... I agree, it doesn't look good,
but I don't see any player (in the heat of the fight) look down and
examine how those brushes got seperated 2 or 3 units by some crappy
fault from the author. :biggrin:

I'll bet you'd see lots of mappers doing it though :razz:

I'll bet you'd see lots of mappers doing it though :razz:

yeah :razz:

1000 downloads ? Who on earth keeps downloading this crap ?