www.filefence.com will host VMF files

hi, I just set up a website to host vmf files.

it's located at http://www.filefence.com

i'm hoping that the community can use this site to

1) host vmf's

2) download other people's work

3) teach and learn the Valve Hammer editor

i see so many posts saying "help me with X thing", or "i can't get
Y thing to work". eventually someone usually asks them to post thier
vmf file. hence filefence

Happy Mapping

great Idea :smile:

thanks dude

go ahead and post one of your VMF's; you don't even need to register.

Wow thats a great idea!

Man your site looks good! Are you a web designer or something? ;D

Really dont think anyones apt to that, since no one really wants to see
their map messed with (at least I don't!) BTW this belongs in the
general board.

Consider it moved :smile:

ok.

first off,

i'd like to address the "someone is going to steal my maps; oh noooos!!!!!111one" comment i have been getting.

1) it's more about sharing than stealing.

2) if someone were to take my completed map (or incompleted one) and copy it outright, then it's STILL my map.

3) if someone were to copy my map and modify it, then it's NOT my map anymore. (iceworld vs. iceworld 2k, for example)

secondly,

sorry for posting in the "wrong" section, i just figured that
people who don't map (the General forum people) would not really care
about a site that hosts vmf's. eh, maybe i'm wrong.

third,

yes it's a rather sharp looking site, there are a few cosmetic
things we are working on. hopefully we'll have an improved interface as
well. i am not a web designer, but i am working closely with one; he's
great.

thanks for the comments.

Don't worry about posting in the wrong thread - I can understand why
you would have been a bit confused, but the way these forums work means
the editing ones should only be used for actual questions, not
discussions with no answers.

I think sharing sources of maps is a good idea, but I also understand
peoples concerns about having their work popping up in other people's
levels. I'm all for giving out some of my previous works for
demonstrative purposes, but I wouldn't want any of it being ripped out
and placed in another level.

thank you for your support, snarkpit.

i don't know if you're aware, but there is a decompiler for source, it
doesn't yet decompile the geometry very well, but i have a feeling it
will.

i don't know if you've played any of the remade cs 1.6 levels (for
source - various assaults, various infernos, etc...), but people
are "ripping" content from them already. as far as being credited for
your work. i'm sure that if someone uses your geometry they will give
you props. I'd like to think we have a pretty honest community.

as far as my maps are concerned. rip away. i'll recognize my work. and
at the end of the day, that's more maps for me (and our community) to
play.

i understand your concerns, and thank you for your ongoing support.

-Mr.Ben

ok.

first off,

i'd like to address the "someone is going to steal my maps; oh noooos!!!!!111one" comment i have been getting.

1) it's more about sharing than stealing.

2) if someone were to take my completed map (or incompleted one) and copy it outright, then it's STILL my map.

3) if someone were to copy my map and modify it, then it's NOT my map anymore. (iceworld vs. iceworld 2k, for example)

secondly,

sorry for posting in the "wrong" section, i just figured that
people who don't map (the General forum people) would not really care
about a site that hosts vmf's. eh, maybe i'm wrong.

third,

yes it's a rather sharp looking site, there are a few cosmetic
things we are working on. hopefully we'll have an improved interface as
well. i am not a web designer, but i am working closely with one; he's
great.

thanks for the comments.

Dude First off I wasnt attacking you or anything....Notice I said "AT
LEAST I DON'T!" (thus indicating I was stating my opinion, and not
disagreeing with you) and personally I DONT want any noob mapper taking
my vmf and F***ing up my work that I put in and call it their own.

If I want to share my ideas then ill put it in a test map with a square
room. Its like taking a photo copy of the monolisa and changing the
person. Would you feel great about it?

And dont get pissed at me for your mistake in posting in the wrong
section! One would think the HL editing board was for questions only
(thats why there is a nifty interface that assists you in answering
questions), not even thinking when they get this link.....hmmm
thats hard, dont piss at me for your mistake. Why dont you learn how to
post/responding to posts before doing so?

And I'am completely aware of the decopiler (I have it), its only use
for it is to check out the entity set-up, nothing more. And I'am glad
the decompiler doesnt decompile the geometry correctly....

i'm sorry, i think you've gotten me all wrong. i'm not trying to upset
you nor am i upset. if you are afraid of people stealing your work,
that's all good. you don't have to post. if you do wish to post only
"test maps", that too is fine; i have a section for that.

i am a strong proponent of opensourcing, i believe that it benefits the community to make source files available to the public.

the decompiler is not quite there, but it's only in 0.72 status, it
will be improved upon (unless the developer quits or dies, of course).

i honestly do not worry about my work being stolen, the only exception
is the mapping contest(s), and in that case; i too would not post my
vmf until the contest was over.

i guess i don't understand why people are so worried about 'map theft'.
valve released de_cbbl.vmf, and dm_lockdown.vmf. and i haven't seen a
ton of thieves claiming that they created them. (although i did see one
guy who modified cbbl, and made a cool custom map [i'll post a link if
you want]).

take care, and thanks for your continued support

-ben

Being a great fan of "open source", and liking the site design, I'm all
for this. BUT, please let's not turn this into a flame war thread (it
always starts with diplomacy, then gets nasty). Some like the idea,
others don't. 'nuff said.

Actually, I'm pretty sure if you posted your final map here THEN released a source file, people would know the map was yours. This site's got some pretty good connections and someone would have to get it from here first anyway.

good call loco. some like the idea, some don't.

i just can't understand what people are getting so protective about.

i mean, even if someone DOES 'steal' your map, what do you lose? and furthermore, what does it matter?

alright, i'm done. no flaming i love you all. stop by if you want to check it out.

and i'll plug my url one more time:

http://www.filefence.com

finally i'd like to give thanks to the community for the ongoing support.

-ben

Ack, Ben! You're actually doing something with your life! :o

:razz:

Ack, Ben! You're actually doing something with your life! :o

:razz:

http://www.snarkpit.com/users.php?name=Mr.Ben
http://www.snarkpit.com/users.php?name=MrBen

You spoke too soon, I think. :razz:

Dam why is everyone getting edgy about this.

Its very simple if you dont want somone to "steal" your map then dont post it.

It's like saying i really hate this T.V. program! - Then change the channel.

I like open source, personally if i posted my map and someone re did it i'd be pretty happy, i mean they liked it so much they actually took the time edit it.

don't think i would worry about some noob trying to change my map either, cos they are way to complex for someone to tackle with very little knowlegde of Hammer.

Dam why is everyone getting edgy about this.

Its very simple if you dont want somone to "steal" your map then dont post it.

It's like saying i really hate this T.V. program! - Then change the channel.

I like open source, personally if i posted my map and someone re did
it i'd be pretty happy, i mean they liked it so much they actually took
the time edit it.

don't think i would worry about some noob trying to change my map
either, cos they are way to complex for someone to tackle with very
little knowlegde of Hammer.

I don't detect too much edginess TBH. Omegaslayer's probably a little
more protective of his work than anyone else here, that's all. Stop
defending your concept and start pimping it. It works better that way. :smile:

i was wondering who was using my preferred handle. lol.

p.s. snarkpit rocks.

take care fellas

Is open-sourcing of contest maps allowed?

you'd have to check the specific contest rules for the answer to that.
but i don't see why you wouldn't be able to. it may give you a
disadvantage (by letting other contestants see your map), but no more
than posting a bsp.

p.s. Rof's decompiler has a new version 0.75 out now

Actually, the contest rules say the map can't be released ... at all. At least, that's what the rules "said", not sure if they actually mean "You cannot post your map".

http://www.snarkpit.com/users.php?name=Mr.Ben
http://www.snarkpit.com/users.php?name=MrBen

You spoke too soon, I think. :razz:

Oh, good. I thought the universe was going to implode or something. :razz:

Just pointing out that is only a theme for phpbb, opposed to a newly designed style.

Actually, the contest rules say the map can't be released ... at all. At least, that's what the rules "said", not sure if they actually mean "You cannot post your map".

I believe that the rules were that the map can't be released before December 1. Ive been looking at the rules and I can't really tell anything about releasing the source.