My web Page

My web Page

Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 9:11pm
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Hello Snarkers..

I have been working on my web page. I have started to work on it, and have one of the many pages done. Please have a look.

I used an IFRAME on the page, it loads great in Firefox, Netscape and
Opera, but for some reason IE6 devides up the images some. I am not
sure how to fix this, unless I recut the images to fit differantly.

Morphine should like the one page I have done so far, since its a World of Warcraft page, and a guild he is apart of.

for you IFRAME [FLOATING FRAME] haters.. if you know of a better way I
can do the page and have it look the same, let me know, I dont know
another way, also how can I adjust the size and color of the IFRAME
scroll bar?

Thanks for your time as always..

Money
Re: My web Page Posted by DrGlass on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 9:13pm
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I'm no expert, but links to the page help when you want traffic :wink:
Re: My web Page Posted by Forceflow on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 9:25pm
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Iframes can get nasty. If they work decently in firefox, they stop working in IE, and vice versa.

You better divide your page in a lot of regular frames to get the same
effect as an Iframe. It's harder, it's a silly thing to do, but I found
out - through experience - that it's the only way to make it work.

Define style of crossbar ... I dunno, you might try some CSS code, but remember it only works in IE.
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Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Mon Jul 11th 2005 at 9:46pm
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See the little house at the bottom of all my post.. I figured most
people were smart enough to know that goes to my home page, and would
click that. But then again you have been under some stress recently so
I will make it easier for you..

http://thepryde.com

DOH never mind, im an idiot.. that goes to my blog.. heh.. sorry.

There will be five areas.. The SeaBees my World War 2 era clan, the
OPFOR my modern day combat clan, The Lions Pryde, WOW guild Alliance,
3B Horde WOW guild.. and then the main page where I will have my
mapping, miniature painting, and all that crap located. I have choosen
to have one centerlized FORUM for all the pages.. I could have upto 5
mysql thingies.. but I plan on using one for an on-line store and
another for my blog.
Re: My web Page Posted by Kain on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 9:41am
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The layout is cool, but I think the colours you chose in the Lions page don't match: black background, blue frame, green text, etc... I dunno, it's too much; maybe you should go for some grays or whites... But I like the theme; very RPG style.
Re: My web Page Posted by Myrk- on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 10:45am
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Use a css or whatever on the site to change the scrollbar colour and style.
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Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 6:55pm
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The layout is cool, but I think the colours you chose in the
Lions page don't match: black background, blue frame, green text,
etc... I dunno, it's too much; maybe you should go for some grays or
whites... But I like the theme; very RPG style.
I used the colors from the image and spread them around. I wanted
thePryde.com in the corner to POP so you knew where you were at all
times.. the green text was to bring more of the green out of the image
and to be easier to read. All in all its ment to be very colorful.

I can try some off-white text to see if it looks better.. but as of
right now im pretty happy with it.. WOW is sorta cartoony and bold and
bright and I think the web page captures that pretty well.

( as for the CSS style to change the scroll bar color, will that work in every browser Myrk, or just IE users? )
Re: My web Page Posted by Crono on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 7:20pm
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IE is the only browser that supports changing the scroll bar color.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: My web Page Posted by rival on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 7:33pm
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IE? Iframes? excuse my ignorance but enlighten me please.
Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 8:14pm
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http://www.iconico.com/CSSScrollbar/

that
site has some nice tools.. That one was a help.. where it says body you
put iframe instead. But I got it to work once, and then removed it
because I didnt like the colors and now I cant seem to get it to work
any more. Oh well.. only people useing IE would of been able to enjoy
it anyways.. and with so many people on Firefox now a days.. it would
of been a wasted effort.

Rival - IE = Internet Explorer, the
browser Windows is packaged with. iframe, is a HTML thingy.. its code
for setting a box on your page like a frame except this one floats in
place instead of deviding the page up into sections, like classic
frames do.

If you goto my page, and you see the area where the
pages load in the small box area inside the image, thats an iframe.. I
used it to get the look and placement of the window I wanted the
different pages to load.

As for the Scrollbars, I was thinking can I can turn them off, and add
code to use the mouse wheel to scroll down, or add in the bottom corner
some arrows that when pushed would scroll the page up and down? would
that be better than the classic scroll bars there now?
Re: My web Page Posted by rival on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 8:18pm
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im such an idiot. i knew what IE is i just was thinking along the lines of iframe when i posted last. i sort of understand what iframe is now. excellent web page by the way!
Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 8:24pm
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Thanks man.. now to build the other 4 sites.. Im thinking of making the main site with mambo.. just to be different. =)

I dont normally use Iframes, because all my Linux buddies get on me about it. Heck I still get crap for useing winblows.

( NOTE )

<style>
iframe {
scrollbar-base-color: #666699;
scrollbar-arrow-color: #009900;
scrollbar-3dlight-color: #333366;
scrollbar-darkshadow-color: #000033;
scrollbar-face-color: #252539;
scrollbar-highlight-color: #3F3B53;
scrollbar-shadow-color: #000033;
scrollbar-track-color: #3C3356;
}
</style>

where it says iframe would normaly be the word body.. but that changes the scrollbars on the main window and not the iframe..

( END NOTE )
Re: My web Page Posted by Forceflow on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 9:28pm
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you might try some CSS code, but remember it only works in IE.
Iframes tend to screw up in Firefox, so forget about working Iframe scrollbar colors in Firefox.

This worked to get my Iframes scrollbar colors allright in IE:

Define the colors in an external css file, named scroll.css or something.

On every page that runs in an I-frame, add this line in the <head> part

<link rel="stylesheet" href="scroll.css" type="text/css">
:: Forceflow.be :: Nuclear Dawn developer
Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 11:18pm
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Iframes tend to screw up in Firefox, so forget about working Iframe scrollbar colors in Firefox.

On every page that runs in an I-frame, add this line in the <head> part

<link rel="stylesheet" href="scroll.css" type="text/css">
I tested the page in FireFox, IE, Opera, and Netscape, and a couple other browsers I have, and it looked fine. I have not looked at it in a couple of the Linux Browsers yet, but with mozilla it looked fine.

From what I read the color scrollbar is only in IE5.5 or better. So I was not worried about it in Mozilla.

I will give that scroll.css a try, thanks for the idea.
Re: My web Page Posted by omegaslayer on Tue Jul 12th 2005 at 11:19pm
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Hehe im just dling the new patch for WoW as im viewing this (IMO its
faster through fileplanet than through the blizzard updator).

You may want to elaborate on what kinds of raids you plan on doing,
like PvP raids, or instance raids (and even elaborate on those: Black
Rock Depths, Upper/lower Black Rock Spire, Scho., Strath, etc), I also
notice you suffer the WoW plague: Too many Palidins :razz:

But I like the visuals alot: The night elf is a nice touch :smile:
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Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Wed Jul 13th 2005 at 3:43am
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Thanks Omega..

Well at one time the pryde was over 300 members strong.. I was expected to be at the beck and call of everyone else to help them, but when I asked for help, no one was ever able to assist me.. So I just quit playing wow one day after telling a bunch of people off.. Its been like 6 months since I last played.. and when I logged on, I was greeted very well.. everyone seemed to know the Famous blackbeard... And i was asked to start te pryde back up by many of the old members, so I started it under a new name, with a plan to never get above 100 members again if I can help it.. it was a bitch to run a guild of that size alone.

As for Raids, many of the old pryde are 60 or damn near even with alts, and want to do all the big nasty instance dungeons and some want to be big in Battlegrounds.. So I guess I will appoint people to run those activities, and I'll try to relax more and enjoy the game. I have to be honest I have lost touch with most of the higher level areas of the game.. and dont know what we will be doing.. As I know the web page can adjust to point it out to our guest.

The Horde page I am doing now will also carry a similure look..
Re: My web Page Posted by Crono on Wed Jul 13th 2005 at 4:21am
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From what I read the color scrollbar is only in IE5.5 or better.

I will give that scroll.css a try, thanks for the idea.
Better? That's a relative term if I ever heard one.

In general, most, if not all, styles should be in a separate file. It makes things very handy once you begin doing dynamic work. (You can have different styles depending on user, for example)

And money, dude, you don't use iframes INSTEAD of a body tag, you use it in addition.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: My web Page Posted by G4MER on Wed Jul 13th 2005 at 4:48pm
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And money, dude, you don't use iframes INSTEAD of a body tag, you use it in addition.
Please explain..
Re: My web Page Posted by Dred_furst on Wed Jul 13th 2005 at 5:07pm
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I reccommend using php_includes or using css to change the content,
I need a new sig
Re: My web Page Posted by Crono on Wed Jul 13th 2005 at 7:49pm
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php includes only work if the other page is a php page as well. There really is no reason for him to use php unless he starts using dynamic content with data (such as a forum or a user base).

Money, let me ask you a question, if all you did to a page was include an iframe what would be the use of the iframe if nothing else was on the page? Just go directly to whatever page you've targeted.

Basically, you use iframes when there is a small area that you wish to change the page of, such as a content frame or something as such. You could have the main page always stay the same (runs faster if you put the graphics on that page too) and then some frame in the middle (iframe or normal frame, same thing, just one can be moved around) to have the content of the page.

It's also not that hard to make iframes look decent in all the browsers, so I don't know what you're all going on about there. All you do is define it for them all. (mozilla allows right, left, top, and bottom alignment, IE doesn't. But IE DOES allow widths and heights. Easy thing to do is put both in the styles and tweak it so it works in both browsers)

I'm not sure what else to explain, I don't know where you got the idea that an iframe replaced the body tag. Maybe you're confusing it with normal frames?

Frames in general are just good for navigational purposes. However, it gets a little tricky when using popups as well. I made a site for a project about a year ago (doesn't work in IE very well, but that's because I didn't go through and tweak it and we targeted a specific browser and went to work) and I incorporated all these things together.

And iframes are just about the only good web-development item to come out of Microsoft, thus it being adopted by W3C.
The IFRAME element allows authors to insert a frame within a block of text. Inserting an inline frame within a section of text is much like inserting an object via the OBJECT element: they both allow you to insert an HTML document in the middle of another, they may both be aligned with surrounding text, etc.
You should really check out thier site, it has everything you'd want to know and how to use it.

http://www.w3.org/
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: My web Page Posted by DrGlass on Wed Jul 13th 2005 at 7:55pm
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<DIV class=quote>
<DIV class=quotetitle>? quoting MoneyShot</DIV>
<DIV class=quotetext>

http://thepryde.com

DOH never mind, im an idiot.. that goes to my blog.. heh.. sorry.
</DIV></DIV>

HA! I'm not stupid! +1 DrGlass

Nothing negative I can say about the site, though it would be nice if you could make the left/right scroll bar match the site when it pops into your frame (like the roster is too big on this computer so it pops in a scroll bar)