I currently took down the FF version as it is outdated. I think it's now in a stage where i need FF to be able to put in the finishing touches and upload it.

if you really want to have a look ingame maybe you can ask some of the guys here to upload it, or download the ctf mod version here, but bear in mind the gameplay is mostly different. The bases have lost their rear parts, the ramproom has been made the flagroom, there's an airbridge over the yard etc. shots of the hl2ctf version: 1, 2, 3http://

Please fix your download link.

Currently our clan runs a FF/CTF map server and would love to play test this map using TDM until FF comes out.

Being the lazy arse that I am with HL2 maps, I haven't run through it yet -- but the last screenshot, which appears to be a designated "blue" area, seems to lack the blue lighting. I might also add that the areas with blue lighting come off as being really strong.

Something similar seems to apply to screen4 -- you have a "blue" area, but it's not... blue enough. The white lights are completely squashing the blue lights, and the result (at least, this is merely my opinion) is that the lighting looks really slapped-together.

/2 cents

No more complaints from my side. :biggrin: Great!

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Beta 5 is up for download. A few minor alterations here and there, mostly to the yard and flagroom:





I also changed the blue light color somewhat. I kinda like it but i'm having doubts about the purple base color it's casting:





comments are appreciated

Neat! But, at the risk of driving you insane: I still think the linear shape dominates too much up there. The round supports are added on top of it but the shape still stays very flat.

... sorry <:] I just really think this could be worth it.

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Reaper47 said:
The only thing that stands out now, that the rest is pretty much perfect in my eyes, is the shape of the outside-base. It looks really monumental with interesting shapes everywhere but the skyline of the bases, probably the strongest visual in the map, is this rather boring trapezium-shape. You can even see the texture repeating in stripes. Maybe if you repeat the shapes of the middle part or the rounded top part for the side? It just looks very static and boring compared to pretty much all the architecture around it

idd. I still wasn't happy with the yard, so this is beta 4 with a new yard.



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The two bright areas in front of the skull: The lack of a source, but the incredible lumen's is peculiar. Not wrong, just strange. There could be a source I dunno about so.. shrugs

The colored lights made one hell of a difference. It really helped.

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From looking at the screens I'd say you pretty much nailed it. You stayed true to the visual style and added the extra detail needed to fill the parts that looked a bit empty.

The only thing that stands out now, that the rest is pretty much perfect in my eyes, is the shape of the outside-base. It looks really monumental with interesting shapes everywhere but the skyline of the bases, probably the strongest visual in the map, is this rather boring trapezium-shape. You can even see the texture repeating in stripes. Maybe if you repeat the shapes of the middle part or the rounded top part for the side? It just looks very static and boring compared to pretty much all the architecture around it:

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Well i feel we're slowly getting there :wink:

I took another detailed look at all the remarks and i felt that these still stood out a bit:

• some of the rooms to feel a bit empty
• red lights in the map don't stick out enough
• The yellowish lighting + gray textures on most everything makes the map look and feel monotonous. Throw in some more variation in the lighting
• nothing going on on the ground. To make matters worse, one of the textures you are using a lot on the floors is extremely clean and near featureless, which doesn't sit well with the fairly crisp and detailed concrete texture used frequently alongside it.
• tiles on the floor look hideous, they bring the whole map down. I'd suggest maybe scaling them up to 0.50 or using an alternative colour
• 'stain' or 'blood' overlays

apart from these, i got remarks about that the bare parts could do with more panelling, and that the yard could be improved.

So i mixed all these remarks in a big c**ktail and came up with an expansion of style. i felt the coloured lights i now mainly had in the upper corridors could be expanded onto the yard, main ramproom and lower corridors. For the latter 2 i combined them into more interesting floorwork. apart from that i used more panelling in the frontside of the bases. apart from the overall yellowish and blue/red colourd lighting, i also threw in more white for variation and contrast. i also darkened the colour of the floortiles somewhat and added stains here and there. furthermore i added flag direction signs.

remarks are welcome!

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