weapon_slam

I cannot find the weapon_slam entity in Hammer. Of course I have run the latest update, so where is it ?

...maybe there isn't one!

Aha, but how to place such item in my hl2dm map ??? dm_steamlab has it too !

Just enter the name "weapon_slam" in a point entity. You cannot use smart edit since it's non supported.

Just enter the name "weapon_slam" in a point entity brush. You cannot use smart edit since it's non supported.

Doing this crashes hammer (at least for me), de-compile them map and find out :biggrin:

and how wood you go about De-compiling m8? ...................................

just compiled my map and hes right i just added a wep and renamed it to weapon_slam and works fine, bear in mind it shows up as a obsolete icon in hammer ;P

To decompile a map, you need a decompiler! As of now the only one I know of is linked to in Rof's signature.

Kudos to you Rof, that decompiler comes in handy a lot

A bit baffling that Valve release the Slam but don't actually update the fgd to include its entity!

But yeah, as others have said, just add any weapon entity and manually change its class name to weapon_slam. That works fine...I've already added it to 2 of my levels, NP_Refinery beta 7 and Riot beta 1.

it's not a big deal, as valve will probably have the fgd updated soon enough, but i thought i'd take a few pics and explain it to anyone thats interested.

open the halflife2.fgd in your text editor (it's in the sourcesdk/bin folder), and scroll down to where the weapons are listed. i left the line numbers viewable to make it easier. if you dont have line numbers, it shouldn't be too hard too find.



the line that's highlighted in blue and the square brackets at the end of the line above are what i added. then, when i save it and restart hammer, i have this;

OK....I am still having major issues with 2 elements to adding a SLAM to my Single Player map.

1. I cannot add a "weapon_slam" to my map, as it doesn't exist in
hammer. I tried adding a model and just renaming it to weapon_slam as
the class value, but that just produces an obsolete dude. I try to
compile the map, but no slam in the map. I restart hammer, still no
slammeroo. I decompiled a map containing some slams, and the entity was
indeed a weapon_slam (but it shows up as an obsolete entity). I have no
slam models in my weapons folder or anywhere else I can find.

2. Issue #2: I want to add a npc_slam to my map (or whatever they are
called) so that when the map starts up, the slam is already mounted and
activated (not as a weapon to pick up). Obviously, if I can't even get
the slam in my map, I can't do this portion either.

Am I missing something? Can I not creat a HL2SP (or MP) map with
slams? I opened up HL2 and opened my map and opened console
and typed 'give weapon_slam' is responds in red lettters: 'Attempted to create unknown entity type npc_slam!'. So what's going on?

Also, I tried Fishys method and edited the fgd file. Now when I open my
map with my "slam" entitys in it, there isn't any longer an 'obsolete'
entity, but a small blue box (doesn't show model). On its 'flags' tab
it has the options to tick 'start constrained' and 'start without grab
functionality' which shows that it is at least REGISTERING that there
is an existign slam entity...

why the hell would I manually have to edit the fgd file to make hammer
do that? The slam still does not show up in any way, shape, or
form in my map.

I did search for this topic, so if it has been covered somewhere else, feel free to point me in the right direction.

And again, thanks, guys in advance.

The slam doesnt exist in single player. What ever single player map you decompiled must have been a mod, because as to the best of my knowlege the slam doenst work in single player. It was only added to HL2 DM to bring back the classic trip mines that people were bitching about.

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Thanks Omega, and yes, I had decompiled a ProMod map.

Is there a way to make slams available for HL2? Or would there have to be some coding involved.....

Coding required, but im sure you could work out a nifty entity set up, where the model is there (embed it in the BSP) and then use env_beam trigger an env_explosion to explode, then have some sounds, it wouldnt take that much to do (this is your npc_slam solution) as for using it (setting them) that would require a whole mod.

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Posting And You

Great! I'm not too worried about using them...just wanna have them pre-set and ready to blow your head off in a map.

To make it decent looking, I think I will have to do:

slam model

env_beam

env_explosion

env_shake

trigger_hurt

trigger_once

It sounds like a long operation, but, like you said....doable....and
once I do it once, just copy and pasteroo (varying trigger names).

Tank j00 <3

I'm sorry, wouldn't it make more sense to just use a physics object? Since it can have a destroyable property with explosion? That takes care of the explosion, shake, hurt, and trigger once.

This way, you could pick it up and junk. If you wanted a "mountable" one with a laser, I'm sure there's certain entities you can tie them to on contact or something as such.

Just another way to think about it, I guess.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

Great! I'm not too worried about using them...just wanna have them pre-set and ready to blow your head off in a map.

To make it decent looking, I think I will have to do:

slam model

env_beam

env_explosion

env_shake

trigger_hurt

trigger_once

It sounds like a long operation, but, like you said....doable....and
once I do it once, just copy and pasteroo (varying trigger names).

Tank j00 <3

Really all you need is the model, env_beam (there is an option in there
that allows it to have an output when the player trips the beam) and
env_explosion, this does damage realisically rather then the trigger
hurt), the shake, hurt are handled by the env_explosion. Keep things as
simple as possible :smile: .

edit: In the env_beam there is an option called touchtype(tripwire) and
set the value to player (or what ever you want). Then have an output of
"OnTouchedByEntity" and set acordingly.

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Posting And You

Great, thx.