Sub'd or Dubed

I was wondering what the majority of Snarkpitians prefered for their anime pleasure:

I know I know, you don't like my polls. [I know because some admin gave
me a post limitation for the past year that has yet yet to be lifted]

This should be an interesting outcome, to see were your true passion lies.

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I turned on the TV one day and before the picture started up (it's an oldtv) I could hear something like:

"I will take 300 life points fromme and give them to galatacdor allowing him 300 life points and a bonus of super aim power"

Or something really odd like that, my first impression was "Alright, a comedy show making fun of anime", nope turns out it was actually the real thing.

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Voted #2. Second choise is fansubed. As long as it is somewhat understandable I'm fine. Dubbed anime never sounds the same.

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What the Snarkpitters listen to!

I really couldn't care less now. If you asked me about 7 years ago I would have said "subbed" hands down, since English dubbing was TERRIBLE. But it's gotten MUCH better since then. It's not annoying now, at least bearable (in most cases). But, if there's something heavy going on I really can't watch it subbed since I'll miss something.

As for fan subs: that's great if there's no pro version, but honestly, I don't know who writes the subs for some of these things. It's very annoying to read a sentence which makes absolutely no sense. Also, fansubbers seem to be afraid to deviate from the literal translation ... as long as it gets the meaning across.

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Blame it on Microsoft, God does.

I don't like anime.

Y2kBen_2000 said:
[I know because some admin gave me a post limitation for the past year that has yet yet to be lifted]

Things do tend to happen slowly around here. Sadly its usually after a rapid series of unfortunate events.

Someone got it in there head that I was an asshole ages ago. It has yet to be confirmed, but the rumor still circulates.

Go figure.

Oh, the poll? Anime sucks ass.

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I used to love anime, but now the style is overused and boring. And with shows
like erm Dragonball Z, i'd rather watch a still photo of a horse
pissing into a bucket.

Pretty much all the anime I watch is fansubbed, and I normally find it
quite satisfactory. I've only actually watched a few dubbed anime, and
the split has been kinda mid-way between acceptable and s**te, but in
general I would avoid it. Professional subs are normally the best, but
I voted fansubbed just because it makes up about 80% of my anime
watching.

Oh and watch "Paranoia Agent" people - great anime show with no token
action scenes, silly effects, poor attempts at humour, or daft
characters. Just an intriguing scenario and captivating viewing. Except
episode 5. What the hell was with episode 5...

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anime is a joke. and it's not even a funny joke at that.

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yep.

Doc B... :dodgy:

Wow... people actually agree with my opinions on anime in a forum.

I dislike anime. Just out of curiosity, would the anime fan(s) here apply the same rules to any other foreign-language films?

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Just out of curiosity, would the anime fan(s) here apply the same rules to any other foreign-language films?

I sure would. I can't STAND dubbed movies. Are there really that many illiterates out
there?

Not to mention that seeing an undubbed movie in, let say, english with subtitles helps you learn the language.

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Are there really that many illiterates out there?

i dont really think its a literacy issue persay is it?

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Not to mention that seeing an undubbed movie in, let say, english with subtitles helps you learn the language.

thats probably, imho, the only advantage i could derive from subtitles.. love leaning new cuss words...

Doc B... :dodgy:

Subbed all the way - almost every film I've seen dubbed has been ruined by it.

While I can see why people might not enjoy anime, I think many others
are misinformed about it or judging it too harshly. It's not all flashy
effects, silly storylines, or cutesy monster...just most of it :biggrin: There
is a lot more to anime than the famous surface series demonstrate - Dragonball Z
and Pokemon aren't adequete examples of the whole lot thank god!

As I said, give Paranoia Agent a shot if you want to see a different
side of anime, with a thoughful and interesting storyline and plenty of
unexpected twists and turns. While a lot of anime presents its story in
a convoluted and confusing manner, Paranoia Agent seems to keep it more
straightforward without patronising or sacrificing depth. A fansub group called Ani-Kraze do
a decent fansub of it if you are interested.

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love leaning new cuss words...

You're going to love this, then (if you haven't seen it already): http://www.insults.net/html/swear/index.html :heee:

I didn't mention Dragonball Z for no good reason since most people I
know seem to love it. Also the show seems
to be gaining a lot of popularity lately as it's being broadcasted on a fairly large number of (foreign) channels.

I agree with ReNo, there are so much more than Pokemon and Sailor Moon
out there. Ghost in the Shell is another more serious series/movie. My
personal favorite is Cowboy Bebop.

Naturo has become worthless, btw. Hate that they keep on releasing
crappy fillers. They should stop releasing until they've decent
material instead of raping all the caracters with worthless plots.

You who say you hate/dislike anime, which series have you seen?

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Every time I read this poll, my dyslexia tells me "Sub'd" and Duded"

Subdued.

Stupid Eyes.

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I have to agree that there is a large populace of people that don't
watch anime because of all the hype about kiddy anime. They
mostly bieve that they're a bunch of kids show not worth the atention
of an adult. The comercials for good anime only come on lae at
night with the very anime. When the people see the comercials,
it's m ostly the flood of goody goody childs anime. In fact, that
might a lso be the problem with dubing companies too. They
recieve the film, believe that all anime is for kids, and try to get
rid of any scene with blood or extreme violence. Many good animes
have been ruined in the dubbing process because of this so called "Kidifying".

Most people just don't understand that there is a mature side to
anime. One with intricate plots, sub-plots, and super-sub-plots,
blood, and extreme violence that child would never be able to
understand.

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I don't watch anime, but when watching foreign films, I'd much rather
read subtitles and be able to hear the original language and emotional
strain in their voices than to have to put up with dubbing. Sure,
having to read every line sometimes distracts from good shots, but I
can't stand the thought of losing all the original voices.

Orph, I like how a month ago you were saying how much you liked Steamboy now you're bashing the entire "genre". :razz:

Anime, perhaps is mistaken as something more than Japanese Animation ... because that's all it is. It just tends to be treated as actual entertainment more than American animation, which, generally, is for younger audiences (By the companies who produce it, I mean). I can understand someone not liking it, but be aware of what it encompasses. It isn't just the s**tty shows that are flooding Am-TV now.
It's really only been recently that American studios have gotten it through their heads that animation is just another medium and not age specific.

Anyway. Subbed for foreign movies ...

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Anime, perhaps is mistaken as something more than Japanese Animation ...

As far as I know, it's a drawing style that appeared in Japan, not a reference to
Japanese cartoons (especially since the Japanese are no longer
the only ones making cartoons with that particular "look").

I need to make further inquiries before I unload what ammo is still left in my sh*t cannon, though.

not anymore, I'd say. Since, most people would consider Otomo stuff anime when he doesn't follow any of the character design "standards" you speak of. Same thing goes with Miyazaki and Tezuka. They all have non-anime standards based on your definition, even though all their works are probably the most influential. So, I'd consider Anime = Japanese Produced Animation. (Things that are only animated in japan, Batman Beyond, are not really considered as such though.)

Stuff like this is really why I don't consider it as a seperate genre anymore. It's just too much work to look at it as anything other than another medium.

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Bashing? an entire genre?

How did you define a whole genre with one movie example? If I had to pick someone who used an example to exemplify an entire genre, it would be you using Steamboy.

Yeah, it was an alright movie, but remember, I am the old person who still cannot differentiate between cartoons and anime. To me, if its drawn, its a cartoon.

Yeah, I admit thats a crude definition, but no more significant than using Steamboy to illustrate an entire type of movie.

On the whole, I feel anime sucks ass. On the whole I feel Scifi is great but there are exceptions. Same holds true for anime. I liked Princess Mononoke oodles and gobs, but I wouldn't say it was on par with a real movie with real people in it.

Another great example is Dark Waters. Loved the series.

I would say that there must be 100's, if not 1,000's of anime and I like prolly less than .001 percent. so, anime sucks ass.

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MUST Be fansubbed. well, i'll watch professional. that's no problem,
but i would probably prefer fansubbed. The translation usually comes
out more acurate. Never ewatch dubed.. shiver so bad most of the
time. But there are those rare good VA's in dubbed anime.

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I have seen Spriggan, Spirited Away and one about giant robots... Patlabor something. All were interesting to watch, but they didnt really impress me.

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My current favorites right now is Full Metal Alchemist, Samuri
Champloo, and Ghost in the Shell: The Stand Alone Complex Sec Gig (yes
thats the entire name of the second season.) otherwise known as
GitS:TSACSG

I have also noticed how the genre has now opened up beyound the borders
of Japan. I actually prefere anime as two genres; a form or
intricate storytelling with plots, subplots, and super-subplots; and
the classic drawing style which emphasizes supreme emotional expression.

There would also be a third genre, simple meaning any animation made in Japan.

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Differences between Cartoon , and Anime. Cartoon are quickly drawn with many implied lines to quickly convey a thought feeling emotion idea or action. An anime is more detailed , so that it takes longer to draw but is more accurately described, but still it's a fast way to get across an idea , concept , emotion , or action. Personally i'd rather watch a clean anime that i pick from, over that smutty crap that people call tv... *ratings are WAY harder on movies than they are on television... I dun think i would let my kid see a "tv-14" at the age of 16.. Especially with these shows like jerry springer O____O... man it's creepy..

Imho :razz: .

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Fansubbed torrents for sure. They never seem get the particular little things about the characters voices in dubbed anime's. IMHO anime movies are nothing compared to series because they can't build up the intricate stories. So far I've watched all of Full Metal Alchemist, Hellsing, Trigun and Naruto, right up until when the story turned to sh*t when they decided to make up stupid sh*tty filler stories and not just stick to the manga and have breaks until new manga is released. Right now I'm watching Bleach and am about to watch the movie Jin Roh today. If you like anime go download Bleach it's an excellent series but be warned won't be that great until around ep 20. Currently trying to get my hands on Witch Hunter Robin.

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Reckless disregard for childrens well being, women and nothing but utter contempt for other cultures.

If your English, then Neon Genesis Evangelion is crap in Japanese- so much feeling in the speech and the action, you just miss everything about it when its in Japanese. Plus in English they have famous voice actors :razz:

Like with that other crazy Anime about that bloke with those hot female aliens who look like humans who have wierd powers. Can't remember the name, but that has some really famous people doing voice overs.

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