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                        Posted by reaper47 on 
    Wed Aug 2nd 2006 at 10:48pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        I might be a little behind as I didn't play many official HL2DM maps lately (or play at all). But something has changed. dm_powerhouse for example. Yes, the lamps are rolling around on the floor thanks to the lenght-constraint bug. But there's more. The whole middle area has been changed. Doors closed I think. At least the steam is gone and I remember a little bridge there and a door on the other side. Some of the metal structures to the top are also different.
So I investigated and, indeed, almost every map has been changed. dm_resistence got an ugly roof bit of architecture now. The old one was so beautifully simplistic. The skybox's different, too. dm_underpass has a slightly different sewer area now. I can't say what changed exactly but it seems to be a lot of optimisation stuff  or unnecessary detail that makes the maps look worse.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by midkay on 
    Wed Aug 2nd 2006 at 11:00pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        Has it? I poked around powerhouse and resistance lately and it looked the same to me; smoke still works (it's in some places, though I don't remember where it was before or if it's moved or changed)..
Never played much of those three unofficial maps but they look basically the same. I do know one thing was changed about dm_underpass after it was released; maybe a week later they changed some machinery on the top platform outside so you couldn't jump up onto it. That's all I can remember..
                                            
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                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by Andrei on 
    Wed Aug 2nd 2006 at 11:01pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        REALLY? I'll take a look.
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After a quick inspection, I couldn't find anything different about powerhouse, resistance nor runoff.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by Yak_Fighter on 
    Thu Aug 3rd 2006 at 2:18am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        A good change would be the deletion of powerhouse and runoff.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by midkay on 
    Thu Aug 3rd 2006 at 2:45am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Yak_Fighter: Honestly, if any should go, I vote underpass. :smile: Powerhouse is big but rather cool.. I don't really care for runoff, but it seems popular among some. Underpass just won for being good-looking, I think. The gameplay's quite poor and IMO boring.
                                            
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                        I played HL2DM when it came out and enjoyed it for a bit, but vanilla DM just isn't my thing, so even if I fired up HL2DM and took a runaround I probably wouldn't be able to notice any changes.
                                    
             
        
            
            
            
                
    
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                        The only thing about that section that stuck out in my mind was the rocket launcher in the middle of that beam area, and that seems the same.
What's different now?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by reaper47 on 
    Thu Aug 3rd 2006 at 3:33pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        lol, I'm absolutely convinced it was changed. :eek: There was this little bridge with the steam coming out beneath it. In the middle, bottom section with the RPG rocket. You walk out of some of the outer hallways through a door somewhere under the stairs you see in the picture. Now it's gone. Among a few other things.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by Andrei on 
    Thu Aug 3rd 2006 at 3:37pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Are you sure the platform and the steam weren't in the other room? I would check it out myself but i'm very lazy today.
                                    
             
        
            
            
            
                
    
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                        Yeah that small platform with steam seems like the other side room in the map.  The one with the crossbow (if I'm remembering this right).
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by Finger on 
    Thu Aug 3rd 2006 at 4:31pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Well those two rooms seems so similar that I see how you could easily confuse it.  That's my main gripe with powerhouse - it's very confusing and both areas seem all too similar.
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by midkay on 
    Thu Aug 3rd 2006 at 4:38pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        "Other room"? "Both areas"?
I guess it's so confusing I never really realized it was two rooms.. :biggrin: Never played it much.
                                            
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                        Re: Official HL2DM maps got uglified?
                        Posted by Finger on 
    Thu Aug 3rd 2006 at 6:26pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        lol... now you don't even know up from down do ya?  Powerhouse is a nice map, tbh - lots of detail and atmosphere.  So were resistance and underpass, but for some reason I just don't really enjoy playing them.  I get the most fun out of lockdown and overwatch, but maybe I'm just lazy.
                                    
             
        
            
            
            
                
    
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                        I really like how the weapons in Powerhouse were handled.  Ie, lights shining on them, decals etc.  Easy to find, easy to grab, but like someone else said previously, very unreal tourney.