Steam hacked and down?

Steam hacked and down?

Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Skeletor on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 5:53am
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My bud says someone(s) hacked into the Steam Network and it's down? He said that the Steam website is also down (which I could not reach either...) Is this just me and him?
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Jinx on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:06am
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I can't play halflife because steam says it can't reach the steam network and shuts down. nor can I reach valve's steam website. I just got home from work and wanted to play some Action HL to relax. I am... pissed. :mad:

if it was hacked, that's funny, and Valve are idiots.

if it wasn't hacked, there's no excuse for this pathetic service, and Valve are idiots.

Either way, we know one thing for sure! :rolleyes:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:09am
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Steam wasn't hacked. Valve is actually "down". Power outage or something; straight out of the horse's mouth (autolycus :razz: )
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Jinx on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:21am
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Gabe probably had his arms full with fried chicken and tripped over the power cord!
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by mazemaster on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:34am
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Naw, the power is really out here in redmond/kirkland. Or at least it was yesterday and the day before due to storms. I got it back last night, dunno about Valve.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Jinx on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:37am
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that is still not an excuse for Half-Life to be unplayable... rather, it suggests how vulnerable and unreliable Steam is :rolleyes:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:53am
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Jinx said:
that is still not an excuse for Half-Life to be unplayable... rather, it suggests how vulnerable and unreliable Steam is :rolleyes:
That if... Power is cut off to the Steam servers, they should keep running anyway, somehow? I think you're just in too much of a rush to blame Valve for everything! :razz:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Forceflow on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:56am
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Campaignjunkie said:
Jinx said:
that is still not an excuse for Half-Life to be unplayable... rather, it suggests how vulnerable and unreliable Steam is :rolleyes:
That if... Power is cut off to the Steam servers, they should keep running anyway, somehow? I think you're just in too much of a rush to blame Valve for everything! :razz:
Well, there's something like power backup systems, erh ...
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Cassius on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 6:57am
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Jinx said:
Gabe probably had his arms full with fried chicken and tripped over the power cord!
Obesity really is a bottomless comedy goldmine :rolleyes:

It's more like a blessing that Steam doesn't work - all of you guys fewlish enough to have that devilish program may perhaps deserve it :biggrin:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Gorbachev on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 7:13am
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WON is for winners.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 7:57am
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And hay is for horses!

Sorry, I'm just bored. I'll go sleep now. :smile:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Mr.Ben on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 8:27am
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About time, cj!
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Leperous on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 10:54am
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Campaignjunkie said:
Jinx said:
that is still not an excuse for Half-Life to be unplayable... rather, it suggests how vulnerable and unreliable Steam is :rolleyes:
That if... Power is cut off to the Steam servers, they should keep running anyway, somehow? I think you're just in too much of a rush to blame Valve for everything! :razz:
Well, it would be nice if they had some European servers for all those other people in the world who play, or yes some backup power :rolleyes:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Forceflow on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 4:17pm
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Cassius said:
It's more like a blessing that Steam doesn't work - all of you guys fewlish enough to have that devilish program may perhaps deserve it :biggrin:
The first release was teh horror, but nowadays steam is running OK on my computer. Still nothing compared with the WON-system, but at least I can play now, instead of watching those progress bars go up and down.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Mustang on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 5:37pm
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Not being able to play is unacceptable no matter how you look at it. Also, if it was a power issue, backup generators and failover systems are the core of any well planned network infrastructure. If they are at the mercy of any storm what comes through I will question my decision to continue to support this game.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by matt on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 5:57pm
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Even with broad band Steam is sucky. Besides, 1Gb downloads are just not a good idea. They should of just released a 1.6 full installer and updated the server list a bit, then HL multiplayer would be nearing perfection. Maybe.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 7:03pm
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There is always the possibility that they do have a backup generator but that it also happened to fail at the same time. It's not likely but it is possible... people seem quick to have a go at valve :sad:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Forceflow on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 8:32pm
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Steam's up again.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 10:34pm
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There is always the possibility that they do have a backup generator but that it also happened to fail at the same time. It's not likely but it is possible... people seem quick to have a go at valve :sad:
That's what I said! Bear witness, citizens of Snarkpit!
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Mr.Ben on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 10:51pm
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Valve is quickly becoming the next microsoft in terms of hating it for any half assed reason you get. It's not like they purposefully had a power outage. Oh no you couldn't play HL for a few hours, big deal. Go out, socialise, watch some TV or something.

It's not the end of the world.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Vash on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 10:57pm
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It's not the end of the world.
giant meteor sets crash course for earth
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Wild Card on Fri Jan 9th 2004 at 11:11pm
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I dont get steam anyways. I mean, I dont even use it but I dont see the point of it. Make everybody do a 650meg download and change the whole system...

And I agree with the valve is becomming microsoft comment. Aparently public interest isnt their main concern anymore...
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 12:06am
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Steam is going to be mandatory and part of Half-Life 2, whether you like it or not. It's way too late to go back for Valve, they've committed way too many resources to Steam already (all the servers, the network, etc.) Might as well convert now and get used to it.

I have to say, I'm enjoying Steam. The "point" is to automatically deliver mods and patches without you having to end up waiting in Fileplanet for a few hours or whatever. They're really designing for the public interest.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 12:10am
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Vash said:
Mr.Ben said:
It's not the end of the world.
giant meteor sets crash course for earth
If steam was still up they could send robots controlled by Half-life players to stop it!
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Vash on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 2:50am
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Looks like its up to use Myrk.

To the batcave.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by fraggard on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 3:06am
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Steam is going to be mandatory and part of Half-Life 2, whether you like it or not. It's way too late to go back for Valve, they've committed way too many resources to Steam already (all the servers, the network, etc.) Might as well convert now and get used to it.
Most people wouldn't mind Steam so much if it would stop bloody updating itself all the time.

I suppose most non broadband people could somehow manage to get the whole 700+MB download. But as soon as you install it, it starts to update itself. Don't see the point in it myself... How tough can it be to host an "updated" version for download?
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Wild Card on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 3:08am
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Its cause the lamers want to make us wait in line at Fileplanet and Gamespy and 3D downloads. By the way, anybody find that a 5 minute line in 3D downloads lasts over an hour for some reason?
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Vash on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 3:22am
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Do what I always do when theres a line for File Planet...Copy the file name [steam_install.exe] and google it. You'll be surprised how many index folders you'll get with the file...No lines :smile: .
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Jinx on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 7:44am
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or you can look for it on http://www.filemirrors.com of course.

we used to use 3dDownloads for the Action HL Map Depot but half the time people couldn't even get the maps. Hell, the little window won't even refresh for me so I can't even wait in line. I had to use my ftp access to download the maps so I could upload them to the new webhost :rolleyes:

Seems to me that whether it's Steam or a patch it's still the same bandwidth. If Valve wants to save us the trouble of fileplanet they could just host the patches themselves at the same bandwidth cost as steam- less in fact since other places would mirror it for them. Clearly they want us to be totally their bitches, though.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by fishy on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 8:13am
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but on the other hand.

instead of waiting in queues for hours on end once every few months when a big feck-off patch is ready, we now get lots of little fixes that are automatically installed one at a time as they are made ready, and in only a few seconds. so unless valve need to make some major changes to steam, i don't really see us having to go through any more 600meg+ downloads again

here's hoping anyway :lol:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Forceflow on Sat Jan 10th 2004 at 10:43pm
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That's right, Mustang ... when you run a system where thousands of gamers all over the world are depending on (especially when CS:CZ or HL2 are going to be released ... notice the sarcasm.) you just can't run this without backup generators or anything.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Sim on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 10:22am
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I've got Steam but I use WON because my fav servers are on it :razz:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 5:03pm
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That's right, Mustang ... when you run a system where thousands of gamers all over the world are depending on (especially when CS:CZ or HL2 are going to be released ... notice the sarcasm.) you just can't run this without backup generators or anything.
Speaking of which, I really hope they're capable of supporting all the new players that'll come with those games.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Forceflow on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 5:38pm
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That's right, Mustang ... when you run a system where thousands of gamers all over the world are depending on (especially when CS:CZ or HL2 are going to be released ... notice the sarcasm.) you just can't run this without backup generators or anything.
Speaking of which, I really hope they're capable of supporting all the new players that'll come with those games.
If they're not capable of supporting steam Gamers now (which is still not the amount of people that played on WON), it sure doesn't look like it.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 5:56pm
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True. I presume they'll have a bunch more servers at that point, but it probably won't be near enough. It's a matter of waiting (and possibly lots more waiting) and seeing I guess.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by matt on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 6:09pm
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What about all the nice new graphics in HL2? That'll mena realistically your going to need a very fast broadband connection to play the next wave of games online. (Doom 3 December the 1st!) probably like 1Mbit+
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 6:19pm
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All the rendering is done client-side...
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 6:41pm
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All the rendering is done client-side...
Yep!

Maybe the AI and the physics might be more complicated though and force more data to be sent. But Steam is already a broadband platform, which means HL2 will be. Sorry. :sad:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 6:48pm
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Not 1mbit+ though. :smile:
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by matt on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 6:50pm
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Some ppl I knew played doom online (yes, the origional!) because they didn't have broadband! But I think I'de have BB by the time I decide to start playing games online.
Re: Steam hacked and down? Posted by Forceflow on Sun Jan 11th 2004 at 7:21pm
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Not 1mbit+ though. :smile:
That would be suicide for the game sales.