carving

i no how to clip brushes i was just wondering how u can just separate them with out any of the brush being deleted

I think I know what you mean....

On the top toolbar, there is a button with the letters ig

click on it. then click your brush.

or do you mean that when you hit Shift+X to select the clip tool, that one side of the brush you want to clip gets lost?

if so, then you only need to hit Shift+X again, and it cycles through 3 different settings. one of the settings leaves both parts of the brush in place.

[edit] btw, carving is looked on as the work of the devil here, so it's safer not to ask about it [/edit]

Quote from teh "Hammer Ten Commandments":

9. Thou shall not, under even the most extreme circumstances, use the evil "Carve" feature mistakenly left in the latest versions of Hammer, lest you be annoyed by many evil emoticons.

personally, i think you guys are full of s**t as far as the "not using the carve tool" rule....i find it very useful when doing 90 degree corners etc...if ya learn when and when NOT to use it, it can be a hella timesaver...and you really end up with no less faces to deal with than if you build the brushes individualy.....now...for complex geometry, ie, carving polygons of different shape and thickness, i'd say stay the hell away from it, because it goes completely snakes**t, carving bizzarre geometric shapes, and leaving huge gaps that are no where near close to the 1 to 1 grid.....now, before you all pummel the s**t outta me (i know im gonna get calls... :heee: ) think about what ive said....and maybe even try it in practice....eh?....for me :heee: ***running like hell

Doc Brass... :dodgy:

When you use the clip tool to cut a brush into two pieces, the red part is deleted and the white part remains. If you want to keep both parts, put the clip on the brush like you normally would, but don't press enter. Click back on the clip button and the side that is red should switch. Click again and both sides will be white. When you press enter the cut will be made but the two brushes will remain. This makes making triangles for terrain quick and painless.

(for those who don't use newfangled key combos to do things and prefer the slow and painful way :razz: )

I kinda agree with Dr Brasso... the carving tool can be useful. But NEVER carve using a cylinder!!! NEVER, NEVER, NEVER!!!

I carved a cylinder once...

Me too, I tried to make a pipe by carving a cylinder with a cylinder... that was a nightmare

I carved a 32 sided cylinder with a 16 sided one once. Wasent pretty... Thats why when I want a hollow cynlinder, I make it myself.

like i said...."controlled carving" is a helpful tool....actually, cylinders scare me more... but it took alot of trial and error to figure it out...in my work, efficiency is a must, as time is money....w00t!

Doc Brass... :dodgy:

Fishy, it's 'Shift+X' 'ctrl+x' cuts. You can also (as Yak said) go clicking the clip tool to cycle through them (yuck) hitting enter once every piece of the brush is white.

Crono said:
Fishy, it's 'Shift+X'. You can (as Yak said) go clicking the clip tool to cycle through them (yuck).

arg, i just realised that and came to see if anyone had noticed yet. :smile:

I still don't like to carve, simply because it keeps me in control of where the brush gets split and how.

and when used correctly, you STILL have the same level of control TB....honestly, i cannot understand the paranoia of carving....work with it, learn its traits, see what i does and does not do.....i swear, in the end, if you really give it a chance, itll be a beneficial tool....a real time saver.... :wink:

Doc B... :dodgy:

I carved a sphere with a smaller sphere to make a dome.

It ruled.

It's just the fact of not taking any risks. Sure, I could save my *.rmf and use the carve feature, but I just don't trust it, and somehow it really makes my brushes into something with lines that really don't make any sense, even on 1 x 1 grid scale.

You know what the funny thing is ? The Jk2 Radiant has an "Evil" carve function too:

I will then be the first to tell you that "CSG Subtract" is evil. Oh yes, evil. Never use CSG Subtract under any circumstances. It can cause far more problems - as severe as preventing a compile from functioning - than it is worth.

:biggrin: