I just noticed this...

Anyone else noticed that in your profile the amount of snarkmarks you have attributes to a named ranking?

Yep, I noticed, and so will everyone else now you've pointed it out. :razz:

Rabid Snark :biggrin:

w00t w00t Way cool Lep :smile:

hadn't till now..

how exactly do the numbers fall lep?

I'm a mini-snark? boo :razz:

Leperous said:
Yep, I noticed, and so will everyone else now you've pointed it out. :razz:

I should hope you'd notice considering you write the stuff. If you hadn't I'd be very, very worried. :biggrin:

"spinkee HD pack snark"



How many levels are there?

the PM's have been recently redesigned too :smile:

i like the new layout.. nice job lep :biggrin:

He should really post a changelog or something similar... I don't think my heart can take all these amazing surprises.

"mini-snark"?

A tad patronising isn't it?

:razz:

"Scabby old HL1 snark"!??!

VASH! EAT HIS LEGS! I COMMAND YE!

Cant; eating tequitos.

/munch; munch

i think, newly joined members to a certain snarkmark point should be "Neonatal snarks"

<As the wind tosses the tumbleweed across the forum everyone in the snarkpit is sat in silence... apart from the faint knawing sound of Vash eating his legs>

I told you dude, that munch is dem tequitos :biggrin: .

Wow, I'm snark spawn!
So watch out, I can get into small places, and where the sun don't shine

$loth said:
Wow, I'm snark spawn!

me too ^_^

$loth said:
Wow, I'm snark spawn!
So watch out, I can get places small, and where the sun don't shine

No comments

So THAT'S what crabs look like. Now I know why people stay away from dirty girls.

And because of perhaps the morality/social suicide (yes, I know this is largely a mapping community), Gorbachev?

And I'm a snark spawn... but I don't want to be. This has motivated me to make maps that aren't s**tty and perhaps even good. Either that or just make a billion killboxes.

Hugh said:
And I'm a snark spawn... but I don't want to be. This has motivated me to make maps that aren't s**tty and perhaps even good. Either that or just make a billion killboxes.

it is a proven fact, that map quality and high snarkmarks do not necessarily coincide.

there is/are some members with substantially high marks, whom make extraordinarily poor maps.

good luck with the killboxes, has worked before :biggrin:

Oh Orph, subtle like a nuclear explosion :biggrin:

Yak_Fighter said:
Oh Orph, subtle like a nuclear explosion :biggrin:

blushes

yes, i do have a person in mind, but.. seriously though, putting that aside.. look at the stats on maps most downloaded.. 2 of those maps are... well downloaded alot..

i however hesitate to call them substandard maps.. but i can say honestly, we have many maps of higher quality..

smiles at yak

you, my friend, know me far to well :wink:

Hugh said:
And because of perhaps the morality/social suicide (yes, I know this is largely a mapping community), Gorbachev?

And I'm a snark spawn... but I don't want to be. This has motivated me to make maps that aren't s**tty and perhaps even good. Either that or just make a billion killboxes.

It just makes it easier. :smile:

There are people with relatively low snarkmarks or ratings who I think are great mappers, while others have high snarkmarks and high rating but give me a prefabland impression. (Not to say all prefabs are bad...but the junk I've seen there makes me want to cry.)

Gorbachev said:
There are people with relatively low snarkmarks or ratings who I think are great mappers, while others have high snarkmarks and high rating but give me a prefabland impression. (Not to say all prefabs are bad...but the junk I've seen there makes me want to cry.)

ok, first off, no offence taken :biggrin:

secondly, i am saddened by the amount of crap at PFL, but also quite proud that we do not filter it out either.. i don't think i could respect a site, that says, "no n00b's allowed"

seriously though, if i find bogus fabs i remove them, but cannot bring myself to police the bad ones away.. if i did that, all but one of mine would be missing :sad:

I can't find my snark label thing? Also, it says I have made more posts than I have snarkmarks, so does this mean I have done something bad to get marks taken away? Or do you not get a mark per post?

You are a scabby old HL1 snark - you can find it at the bottom of the left hand side bar on your profile. You don't get a snarkmark per post, though your posts are used in the calculation. If you search the forums you might be able to find the fomula used to determine your snarkmarks, though I think Lep may have changed it quite a bit since then.

I'd be tempted to do a killbox map..

/runs away from angry Snarkpitters

hah, I was looking in control panel instead of my profile

scary_jeff said:

we (some of us whom recommend suggestions) hashed out the value of posts vs. snarkmarks a while back jeff, and it was decided that posts were over rated at 1 per 1, its now something like 5 or 10 posts per snarkmark.

everyones marks decreased back then, and was in no way reflective of any harm incurred..

you musta slept since then to have missed it, cause everyone cried about their number decrease.

I don't care what my number is...provided I'm in the top 5 highest :wink:

/me plots new tutorials to increase snarkmarks

ReNo said:
/me plots new tutorials to increase snarkmarks

Me cants waits to read :biggrin:

ReNo said:
I don't care what my number is...provided I'm in the top 5 highest :wink:

/me plots new tutorials to increase snarkmarks

personally it is my opinion that snarkmarks should only reflect solid contributions to the pit..

1) maps
2) tutorials
3) questions solved
4) reviews
5) critiques (yeah it is my opinion that critiques are more valuable than reviews)
6) ect,ect,ect

never random posts totals :sad:

I never noticed because I never cared about how many points I had got... I only saw now because I was interested in what 'rank' I had 'achieved' :smile: I say let posts count to marks, it's not as if the marks get you money or a free luxury holiday!

/me hopes to be corrected on that :razz:

I agree with that last bit wholeheartadly...

EDIT: This was in reply to orph's post!

/me glares at Wild Card :razz:

Seriously though, if the snarkmarks per post ratio is really low, then it does no harm really. Tutorials, reviews, critiques (perhaps map author rateable, so great big critiques get more snarkmarks for the writer than a couple of bug reports), maps, and editing help should certainly make up the bulk of the score.

ReNo said:
I don't care what my number is...provided I'm in the top 5 highest :wink:

/me plots new tutorials to increase snarkmarks

Heh, excellent, the Plan is working.. :biggrin:

Leperous said:

ReNo said:
I don't care what my number is...provided I'm in the top 5 highest :wink:

/me plots new tutorials to increase snarkmarks

Heh, excellent, the Plan is working.. :biggrin:

you werent suppose to reveil your plan to us :razz:

resists urge to get the big head

i agree duncan.. critiques are not as simple as people think, the process can be daunting, why else are there so damned few done???

i don't wanna over rate them either, but i do think them of a higher value than reviews, only because it helps create better maps, reviews are only done when its complete..

i await being corrected as well :smile:

Critiques affect the map, reviews critisize... therefore critiques are more useful to the mapper, but reviews are useful to 56k users because they want to know wether the map is worth waiting 10 mins to download :razz:

I always aim my reviews primarily at the potential player (as well as pointers for the author) - a critique is more or less purely for the author of the map.

I dunno, I guess it just doesnt make sense to compare them.. :razz:

Myrk- said:
Critiques affect the map, reviews critisize... therefore critiques are more useful to the mapper, but reviews are useful to 56k users because they want to know wether the map is worth waiting 10 mins to download :razz:

10 minutes? I tryed to download a map yesterday and gave up after 20 :biggrin:

Myrk- said:
Critiques affect the map, reviews critisize... therefore critiques are more useful to the mapper, but reviews are useful to 56k users because they want to know wether the map is worth waiting 10 mins to download :razz:

i would hate to think, i got, or lost snarkmarks because i was not 56k friendly on my critiques :sad:

I guess it isn't so important to have map reviews anymore, because most people who play online can download any potential map in about a second and try it themselves. I think concentrating on helping people as they make their maps is a more useful focus for El Peet 'in this day and age', so to me critiques are more important than reviews.

Orph, I think he meant that it is easier for a 56Ker to read a review that takes a few seconds to load than for them to download a map that they end up not liking. He wasn't talking about your crits :smile:

Orpheus said:

Myrk- said:
Critiques affect the map, reviews critisize... therefore critiques are more useful to the mapper, but reviews are useful to 56k users because they want to know wether the map is worth waiting 10 mins to download :razz:

i would hate to think, i got, or lost snarkmarks because i was not 56k friendly on my critiques :sad:

I would read your reviews any day :smile:

Hey if you need a template review ish thingy, take Cliff Complex for a run :razz: I've been waiting more months than I have fingers for HLatlas to review it.

I hold them in equal regard - critiques are more useful as a development tool, but a review is like your little bit of glory (or shame). It feels like the legend of your map - critiques are gone and forgotten once they are used, the opinions of reviews are stuck in my head for much much longer.

And we shall (hopefully) see some more reviews soon.

Good point ReNo. I was well pleased with the reviews I got :smile: ty for the comment to.

No problem, I'm sure I commented on it ages ago but its one of the ones I never went back to remake once all the comments and things went missing (did that happen, or am I imagining that?!).

i agree with everything you said duncan, but cannot help thinking, reviews are more intended to be ego boosters, or worse, they can end a mappers career.

but the lost critique you mentioned, i dunno, it has to be more valuable simply because its a vital step to the completion of the map, for which there would be no review otherwise..

i don't wanna give the wrong impression, i wanna do reviews myself, if its possible for me to do so.. and i do not plan on short changing people because i feel critiques are more valuable, i will give it/them 100% of my efforts as well.. but i just cannot see them as equal at all..

sorry to disagree, but thats ok, doesn't make me right after-all :biggrin:

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WHAT!?!? HL1 snarks arent scabby, theyre cool.
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Do the ratings for your maps/tutorials/etc. get counted in the calculations? I know your user rating does...