I had a bad dream...

I sleep extremely deeply I think. I have woken my whole house up coughing in the night and not woken up myself. Thunder, heavy rain, somebody banging on my door yelling 'get the hell up'... non of it works. But as soon as my alarm goes off (quiet radio), I wake up instantly!

mazemaster said:

sleeping hard is not genetic, its a learned thing, you are just lazy.

Dammit I hate having to put up with this sort of crap from people who can wake up easily. You haven't experienced what we go through every day, so please shut the hell up.

maze, i will let it slide since it is obviously a strong issue with you, but speaking as someone who has worked both sides of this issue, please don't call me a liar so blatantly again.

before i was 18, i slept so hard i used to get beat for it.. yeah actually, foot stomping beat, in my sleep cause i couldn't wake up fast enuff to suit my old man.. so i have indeed lived through it, and survived..

the ass whippins did not solve my sleep habits.. and YES i still insist its a sleeping habit, one you and your family have yet to break.. you obviously have not had reason enuff to resolve it yet..

my sleeping to hard was solved on my second day of basic.. i suddenly realized it was no longer a luxury to get up when i wished anymore, and some sort of a switch was thrown.. one i wish i could turn the other way sometime.

getting mad at people cause you sleep hard, is not a viable solution, if you cannot teach yourself to get up easier, you can at least realize you sleep hard and set the alarm accordingly.. if it takes you an hour longer than normal people, set the damned alarm an hour earlier for christ sakes.

sleeping hard is truly a learned thing.. i suppose there can be medical reasons, the only reason i give it credence at all, is because of my inability to sleep, there has got to be some reason for it, one thats medically based.. as i get older, i seem to sleep less.. i do not feel any more rested, i just sleep less.

my only hope is, you never need to wake up fast, cause you will suffer for it if it happens, be it house fire, burglary, or tornado.. as i said, i could have slept through anything, including being beat-up, so don't think i say this easily, my childhood is not something i wish to discuss, no one here has earned that right yet.. but it was imperative that i show you, i been there, and taught myself to get up.

I sleep lightly, i used to get up at about 6.15 on a school day to do a paper round, thank god i only have exams left and i dont have to my paper round when i have exams!

You cant read in dreams, tho... :eek: BTW, i once dreamed that i died shot in the stomach by what looked like a kar rifle. :eek: Weird.

if it takes you an hour longer than normal people, set the damned alarm an hour earlier for christ sakes.

Definately agreed. And if this means you don't get enough sleep... go to bed an hour earlier. If I know I need to be somewhere at 8 instead of 9, I at least try and go to bed an hour earlier. It isn't usually possible to just going to bed earlier one day, and fall asleep instantly, but after a few days of waking slightly earlier as well, it seems to work out. Do it for long enough, and you won't be able to wake up later than 8am (or whatever) for a couple of months :smile:

internal clocks cannot be easily set, case in point, the damned daylight savings crap.. it takes me a couple weeks to reset my internal clock, just because of this one stinking hour.. BUT it proves you can reset it eventually, and with the proper motivation.

people who sleep hard, AND have no clinical reason for doing so, can reset the internal clock that governs how you wake up.

the problem lies in, asking yourself what it would take to do it.. hopefully not something life threatening, cause, once you are dead, it kinda reduces the amount of time you have to succeed.. that was NOT MEANT as a joke.. i was dead serious.

waking up, is much a part of sleeping as going to sleep is.. if you have trouble doing one, you will most likely have trouble with the other.. i have no trouble going to sleep, its remaining asleep where i have problems :sad:

i had a co-worker once, worked with him for nearly 3 years.. always arrived at work asleep.. he insisted he slept to hard and couldn't change it.. he actually got dressed on his way to work.. come to find out, he was stupid enuff to hit his snooze button till the last minute.. i gave him the daily respect he deserved for doing it.. i worked his ass off from the moment he arrived.. needless to say, our first couple hours each day were not pleasant ones.. but i loved every moment of it.. i didn't teach him a damned thing, when i left he was still lazy about getting up.. but i had a blast torturing him.. the only bad thing is, i acquired a deep seated scorn for people like him.. the solution was so easy, but he...well you know, after 3 years he wasn't about to change.

Not having a poke at anyone in particular either, but I have met lots
of people who claim to have sleeping problems - it turns out they have
no regular patterns, or watch TV/use a computer before going to bed,
usually post-1am.

There are lots of things that can affect going to bed... if you have
trouble sleeping, dont read/use PC's/watch TV or anything of the sort
before going to bed.. have a hot drink and winding down period - youll
regulate your body temperature for comfort, and also rest the brain.
The last thing it needs to be doing before bed is working and being
stimulated!

The types of food you eat (in general, and before bedtime) can affect
sleeping patterns/habits as well. The people usually affected who talk
to me about it are on non-regular patterns - ie they have some early
mornings, and sometimes lazy days with no obvious pattern to their
routine.. its sorting things like this that have a big knock on effect.

Also, a little lavender oil under or on a pillow helps a lot of people, as well! :smile:

And yeah - to reiterate Orphs point, "snooze" buttons are possibly the
worst inventions ever. Get a loud alarm clock if you need one,
preferably with a metal ringer (traditional style ones) :smile: AND DONT GET
A SNOOZE BUTTON! it will screw the rest of your day up as you take
"just 10 more minutes.."

poke all you wish, i have lived with this since about 18 years old.. its that switch i was talking about..

i have tried all your solutions, none help.

i have no trouble attaining sleep, its remaining asleep thats my problem.. i just suddenly wake up.. i don't have troubled sleep, its just time, and sudden.

i would give almost anything for a rested sleep, just once to wake up refreshed.

anywho's, i endure.

i wasnt poking at you Orph :smile: youve explained your situation, i was
making general points - in the "internet generation" direction :smile:

I'm on the other end of that spectrum there- the insomniac side. I just can't seem to ever get to sleep for more than an hour, and I always wake up way earlier than I plan. I can't remember the last time my alarm clock actually woke me up- it's more of a signal on when to crawl out of bed than anything it seems.

And I do find that watching TV/messing on the PC doesn't really help at all before trying to nod off. The best thing I've found is to read. It doesn't always work, but it does calm me down enough that I can at least lay still for a period of time.

Orph - perhaps you are having some kind of nightmare that you aren't remembering, and that is causing you to wake up for no reason? My mum told me that since she became a mum, almost anything will wake her up, because she was used to worrying about the slightest noise being something happening with the baby (me :smile: ). Perhaps it's a similar thing with you... maybe now just the smallest thing can wake you, and it's so small you didn't even know what it was.

scary_jeff said:
Orph - perhaps you are having some kind of nightmare that you aren't remembering, and that is causing you to wake up for no reason? My mum told me that since she became a mum, almost anything will wake her up, because she was used to worrying about the slightest noise being something happening with the baby (me :smile: ). Perhaps it's a similar thing with you... maybe now just the smallest thing can wake you, and it's so small you didn't even know what it was.

i wouldn't attribute it to nightmares, but i do tend to relive the days events while i sleep.

also, if i am concerned, or worked up about something before bedtime, i tend to wake up thinking of it.

many nights i have woken up, with a thought i needed to post here, to help solve some dilemma i have inadvertently caused someone :sad:

this site, occupies way to much of my free time :razz:

How do you know they are lucid...? Do you know you are dreaming while you are dreaming, or do you remember the dream as if you are aware its a dream during the dream... but you werent..

If I concentrate/meditate on a certain thing before falling asleep, I will invariably dream about it. Also, I am almost always able to control what happens and what I do in dreams.

scary_jeff said:
I sleep extremely deeply I think. I have woken my whole house up coughing in the night and not woken up myself. Thunder, heavy rain, somebody banging on my door yelling 'get the hell up'... non of it works. But as soon as my alarm goes off (quiet radio), I wake up instantly!

I'm about the same. If there's a sound my body expects then I can wake up to it no matter how quiet. If it doesn't concern me then I sleep right through it. I don't remember many of my dreams these days, but they're usually not the stereotypical I can fly kind of stuff. Often just regular days, combinations of life and games or situations I've been in or thought about. And of course the obligatory naughty dreams. The only time I have nightmares is when I'm sick. Which isn't too often so that's good.

My internal clock is much like myself though, it adapts really quickly to changes. Even when I went to Japan and came back, my body was on a reverse time where it wanted to go to sleep at 6 in the morning and wake up at 3 in the afternoon. It took me about 2 days to adjust it back. I don't really notice daylight savings as I stay up so late at night anyway I just go to sleep one hour earlier and my brain gets tricked into thinking it's the usual time.

DesPlesda said:
I typically don't remember the content of my dreams, but on more than one occasion I've had my dreams interfere with the real world, while I'm waking up. For example, I'm sometimes convince myself that the alarm clock beeping is in fact the dragon's alarm clock, and can therefore be ignored safely.

I got up in time, though.

HAh! When I'm even half asleep, I confuse my alarm clock for a dump truck backing up in our car park

Yippie Ki Yay!

Its easy to wake me up. just say my name in a clear and normal tone and i will wake up, or if my alarm goes off. However really load noise will not wake me up such as kids screaming, lawnmowers, some one yelling ect....

i always wake up when i hear a sound similair to my alarm clock, once i was dreaming about a alarm clock wich went off, i woke up. and i have the bad habit of being clear wake when i hear my alarm clock, so once i was almost asleep in the couch in fornt of the tv, then a commercial in wich you hear a alarm clock going off. i woke up again.