Site redesign

Site redesign

Re: Site redesign Posted by Headz on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 3:39am
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Hello all, think Ive only posted here 3 or 4 times, but always found this site helpful, I took the advise from someone here and redesigned the site.

Im looking to add some content in respect to maps you really like or recommend, for any mod

If you would like to showcase any of your maps (in the gallery) then take as many screenshots as you feel needed, 800x600 jpg, then zip them and send to me, or drop by the forums with a link where I can get them, also looking for some map reviewers for the reviews section.

cyas Headz
Re: Site redesign Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 5:06am
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I'm not much into this kind of stuff, but one thing does jump out at me. the background you have used for the text makes it hard on the eyes.
Re: Site redesign Posted by Forceflow on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 5:56am
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True ... get rid of the horizontal lines behind the text. Will make the site much lighter too, because it's a bit laggy when I'm scrolling.
Re: Site redesign Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 9:16am
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I don't mind the background, overall it looks pretty good.

But please, don't disable right clicks - honestly what is the point when you are using phpnuke? All it does is stop people from opening links in a new window... Also, that permenant 'nukethemepark' thing annoys me :smile:
Re: Site redesign Posted by mazemaster on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 10:14am
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Looks good, but ACK, no right click! The internet, unlike television, is a medium in which the user should browse according to his/her choosing in a nonlinear way. The best websites make it easy to go to anywhere on the site from anywhere else on the site in any way they choose (like an encyclopedia), rather than having prescribed paths which the user must go through in prescribed ways (like TV).
Re: Site redesign Posted by Headz on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 3:31pm
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Posted 2004-06-22 3:31pm
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thx for your comments, I do agree about the "laggy" scrolling, it must be delt with, as for no right click, I still dont understand how it would be of conciderable help if you could. And Ill experiment with the backgrounds for the text areas:)
Re: Site redesign Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 3:55pm
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Headz said:
thx for your comments, I do agree about the "laggy" scrolling, it must be delt with, as for no right click, I still dont understand how it would be of conciderable help if you could. And Ill experiment with the backgrounds for the text areas:)
consider it this way, you are limiting our preferred methods, and you truly have nothing worth stealing, in fact it honestly looks as if you "BORROWED" some material from elsewhere..

question: what is the total file size of that page? it took ages to load fully.. you might consider optimizing it a bit, or reducing it with a "history" link..
Re: Site redesign Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 5:13pm
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you truly have nothing worth stealing
And preventing right click doesn't stop people 'stealing' even if there was.
Re: Site redesign Posted by Headz on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 5:27pm
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Posted 2004-06-22 5:27pm
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Total file size of the page is 129k plus the small logo, which is small file size, but my web host often takes a while to retrieve info from the database servers, nothing to do with site file sizes. Sometimes the page loads in an instant, other times it takes ages, this is out of my control

As for the "borrowed" background and Gordon and alex, these were released by valve as a part of their media pack.

I still dont see valid reasons to enable right click. You can access the entire site without the use of right click so this isent helping me improve the site. I am glad for your views comments but something so trivial as this is not a concern.

I do appreciate direction, and welcome any suggestions regarding design/looks features etc.
Re: Site redesign Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 5:37pm
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Headz said:
I still dont see valid reasons to enable right click. You can access the entire site without the use of right click so this isent helping me improve the site. I am glad for your views comments but something so trivial as this is not a concern.
if site hits isn't a concern, tis OK by me..

members here, have stated that disabling it, would discourage them.. we are a small community, what would the rest of the world think?

anyways.. it was an opinion, you may use it, or ignore it.. but i would like to point out, you also gave no logical reason to disable it.. doing so was trivial as well :heee:
Re: Site redesign Posted by Forceflow on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 7:17pm
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Also, I took a look at your code. Make sure you load all your javascripts from a .js file. It takes ages to load a page which has almost exactly the same content on it.

And i think I know what makes the page that laggy ... it's
  • the horizontal background-thingy.
  • the news-scroller at the bottom of the page. When you're mouse is out of it, it keeps on scrolling, even when it isn't in the view of the visitor. Get some better scroller, or just put a scrollbar in that table. There's no need to let a thing move that isn't even on the screen. :smile:
For the rest: make sure you enable that right-click again, or just protect your most complex pages with it.

(for example, you programmed a top-notch menu and you don't want anyone ripping it, disable right-clicking. But know in thy heart that everything you see on the screen is actually plain code being executed, and code is easily viewable from the browser cache or with a tool like BlackWidow or something. Right-click is fool-proof, but that's about it. Any advanced computer user or webdesigner could easily rip every site design. Sad, but true.)

For the rest, keep up the good work !
Re: Site redesign Posted by mazemaster on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 7:24pm
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I still dont see valid reasons to enable right click.
Heres 27 reasons for you:
User posted image

Also, taking the images is as easy as going view>source and copying the images directly.
Re: Site redesign Posted by Forceflow on Tue Jun 22nd 2004 at 7:32pm
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mazemaster said:
Heres 27 reasons for you:
User posted image

Also, taking the images is as easy as going view>source and copying the images directly.
... or using the built-in page-source viewer in Firefox that just puts all the image links in a list.

As I said, right-click is just fool-proof. People who know what they're doing will have your source, images and scripts in no time. Why bothering ? You'd better spend time in designing and optimizing your site than boosting the 'security'.